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We have scales but why??
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aciddose
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:52 pm reply with quote
There's yer problem.

Did you remember to hit record before doing the shouting?
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codec_spurt
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:07 am reply with quote
aciddose wrote:
There's yer problem.

Did you remember to hit record before doing the shouting?


Did you remember to engage your brain, before speaking?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:28 pm reply with quote
Gillman wrote:
jancivil wrote:
I'm a contemporary American, I don't require that baggage.


Do you read figured bass? Because there is a lot more in the common *practice* thingy than determining if a floaty vamp of two suspended chords is subsumed under the concept of tonal or not.

Just play the game. You will learn a lot in the process, musically and philosophically. Play the game, even if it seems cumbersome at some times, you will not regret it, you will be changed and you will change your music and the world once you've got it, that's the best advice I can tell you.
Yes, we were required to read figured bass in every harmony class I've had, all the part-writing exercises and tests used it. I'm actually thoroughly versed in it.

You are addressing an imaginary person with that advice. It has little to do with what I'd said, I was talking about the semantics. I see the point, 'tonal' uses 'tonality', but I take the word in a more contemporary, even street usage, if there is a 'tonic', center of gravity so to speak, I say 'tonal', which doesn't have to correct for youse.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:42 pm reply with quote
jancivil wrote:
I see the point, 'tonal' uses 'tonality', but I take the word in a more contemporary, even street usage, if there is a 'tonic', center of gravity so to speak, I say 'tonal', which doesn't have to correct for youse.


Such an approach could be confusing for newbies though.
Modal music is not tonal (though admittedly you can get music which blurs the distinctions).
If you must lump them together, then a word I have often seen used is Centric, meaning it has a centre (like a tonic but not necessarily in a tonal sense).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:16 pm reply with quote
sure you're right. but it's just a semantics thing isn't it. I was upset over the V-I hegemony and that strong an assertion you can't have *home* without it to a fault I think.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:11 pm reply with quote
It's good to see you back Jan. I missed you.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:39 am reply with quote
After reading this thread I feel like scaling something and jumping off.
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