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Take a look at this:
http://www.musictheory.net/ And here is a downloadable version: http://classic.musictheory.net/ It even has a scheme for writing chord progressions. And it's free. |
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trewq wrote: Mel Bay books.
Seriously. If you are not familiar with it, check it on Wikipedia. I got a few of Mel's books when I was starting out. But I don't blame him Really good actually - learned a lot. Are the books still around? Highly recommended. I posted elsewhere on KVR but just visit http://jguitar.com/ - you can learn about chords you made up and what name/key they are. You can tune your guitar/bass including alternative tunings. You can find scales that go with certain chords. You can look up a name of a chord and find alternative inversions. It really is a one stop shop for the beginner guitarist. I wish I had had it when starting out. Then again... ---- "I guess once a junkie, always a junkie." - Bruce Swedien. |
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codec_spurt wrote: trewq wrote: Mel Bay books.
Seriously. If you are not familiar with it, check it on Wikipedia. I got a few of Mel's books when I was starting out. But I don't blame him Really good actually - learned a lot. Are the books still around? Highly recommended. I posted elsewhere on KVR but just visit http://jguitar.com/ - you can learn about chords you made up and what name/key they are. You can tune your guitar/bass including alternative tunings. You can find scales that go with certain chords. You can look up a name of a chord and find alternative inversions. It really is a one stop shop for the beginner guitarist. I wish I had had it when starting out. Then again... That Mel Bay chord encyclopedia sold alot back in the day. I never heard of it until my girlfriend in high school bought it for me - back when I only had one thing on my mind. |
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lingyai wrote: Not a substitute, but a supplement
Bullshit. This is geared for avoidance of musical thought, for people that for some perverse reason are in a hurry or allergic to the work involved of approaching music with their own thought. Anyway as per the OP that is asking about a primer, this will be a crutch before the first steps are taken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P_1Bg tA_lvo If one needs a program to guess their chord changes, perhaps they aren't well suited temperamentally to the task of writing music. I said "work" above, but the real interest in how music works would prefigure that this kind of thing is a lot of fun and rewarding per se. If it isn't, I can only guess 'in a hurry' hence a drive to find a way out of doing it yourself. There is surely a market for this kind of thing today though. |
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jancivil wrote: lingyai wrote: Not a substitute, but a supplement
Bullshit. This is geared for avoidance of musical thought, for people that for some perverse reason are in a hurry or allergic to the work involved of approaching music with their own thought. Anyway as per the OP that is asking about a primer, this will be a crutch before the first steps are taken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P_1Bg tA_lvo If one needs a program to guess their chord changes, perhaps they aren't well suited temperamentally to the task of writing music. I said "work" above, but the real interest in how music works would prefigure that this kind of thing is a lot of fun and rewarding per se. If it isn't, I can only guess 'in a hurry' hence a drive to find a way out of doing it yourself. There is surely a market for this kind of thing today though. Hmmm, makes me want to check it out! I look at things now (as I get older) in a way that I can't do everything; I write my own songs but not with any real music theory other than what I learned from HS band; I play what sounds good to me. I look at it like this...I can't be an expert at everything or even study / become very proficient at everything I want to do in life; learn music theory, guitar, bass, DAW, effects, synth programming, tennis, homebrewing, motorcycle riding, studying the bible, making wine etc. etc. I only have so much time to do all these things! What if you found out that your favorite song ever was written by a songwriter that didn't know much about music theory...would you not like it anymore? I think the final result (if it's legal) is what's important.YMMV. ---- John "B4serenity" |
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b4serenity wrote: jancivil wrote: [anger] ... I play what sounds good to me. ... What if you found out that your favorite song ever was written by a songwriter that didn't know much about music theory...would you not like it anymore? I think the final result (if it's legal) is what's important.YMMV. But I think this is the point. If you play what sounds good to you, then why would you need a program to tell you what to play? |
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Well it would be an easy way for me to add color (variations of chords) that I might not use normally. Kind of like collaborating with a virtual songwriting partner/piano player. I wish I could become better at all the things in my list above, but I don't want to give up even one of them so I have to spread my time around to have some semblance of a balanced life. I still spend most of my time on my songs but I can't finish things from fear of judgement (I really have to get over that!) or not enough time before the next big idea comes along! ---- John "B4serenity" |
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JumpingJackFlash wrote: Perricone wrote: How do you know what chords can be played in a certain scale?
Check out my Introduction to Music Theory. To put it simply, you build chords using the notes of the key. So, in C major you have C,D,E,F,G,A and B to play with; no sharps of flats. Chords are usually constructed in thirds; that means there is a third between each note. (C to D is a second, C to E is a third for example). So, stacking thirds in this way on each note of the scale gives you: C,E,G D,F,A E,G,B F,A,C G,B,D A,C,E B,D,F In any major key; chords I, IV and V are major chords. Chords ii, iii and vi are minor, and chord vii is diminished. If I was in G major for example, I have an F#, so that means I use D,F#,A and B,D,F# (instead of D,F,A and B,D,F) If I was in F major, I have a Bb so I use G,Bb,D and Bb,D,F. And so on. Your post really explains a few things I never understood and ties some other things I did together. THANK YOU! ---- "Use the talents you possess, for the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except the best." - Henry Van Dyke |
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Nanakai wrote: jancivil wrote: [anger] Nicely summarized. |
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