I laughed

but that means buying them again in that new format though?

i would love it if someone just made a wrapper or a converter for kontakt that loaded the ST sounds i already have..

Yeah, GC666, it does mean rebuying them, but at $20 a library ATM, (some went for as low as $11 last summer!) it's not a deal breaker for me.

I try to use ST for what it does best, NICE electric guitars, synths, vintage keys, and tons of variety in the FX section with a low CPU footprint, and use Kontakt/IP for the punchier, more transparent sounds like acoustic guitar, piano, bass and drums and rebought accordingly.

KVR/eSoundz: Xenobt

Bump.... First two months of 2013 gone. The hype machine had been rolling for at least 4 years. I really hope they actually resampled everything to make it more realistic when and IF it comes out. The IK guys seem like nice chaps. I sincerely wish that they would provide more meaningful updates on a forum such as this instead of the ultra, ultra-shady fb. If they actually provided real updates videos blogs or whatever elsewhere I might actually follow.

Sorry I missed this message above... I don't think I ever lead anybody to believe it would be in the first two months, and you can realistically expect more months to go by. We are working on it, both sounds and functionality and we're posting what we can. I know you disagree with posting it on Facebook but it is a very effective method for us to reach people and we will likely only stop using it when the billions of people that use it stop using it. I hope that is transparent enough for you, we're not trying to mislead anybody. We will also keep people posted on our forum at http://www.ikmultimedia.com/forum and I'm sure http://www.sampletank.com will get updated with the new version once available.

Thanks Peter. I appreciate your response and honesty of what to expect. It's more that I had been hearing about ST3 for years that made me skeptical. I recall hearing buzz about it back around 2009-2010.

Can we expect to see instruments resampled for better quality? I'm not here to knock ST2 at all but the scripting for ST2 while may have been advanced for its time is not quite up to par with what I would expect in 2013. A lot of the sounds are very synthetic as opposed to contemporary Kontakt libraries. Those same libraries might work for some but not for me. While Sampeltank is lots of fun, at the end of the day, I want something that sounds real without having to do 30 tweaks every time. Thats why I love what NI has done but I also have hopes for IK as well.

You guys make great products and that's why I have faith that you could create the ultimate sampler but I hope that improved realism would at least be a focus instead of repackaging the concept with a shiny new interface. I haven't heard or seen much about ST3 so for all I know the team might have said ST2 is good enough here's the newest version. I understand the big draw for 64 bit. For me, I'm more concerned about hearing something that sounds very realistic whether it is violin or what not.

It's obviously a company decision to use FB as one of the main outlets, but I really wish that you would use something else. An awful lot of people are turned off by the invasiveness of FB so I know I am not alone. It would be great to see more of that type of content on an open forum here where we will actually follow. It would definitely appeal more to your fringe customers. I like your products but I am not so gung ho that I am going to sign up for a FB account and like many others I don't lurk on your forums either. KVR for me like for many is a great one stop shop.

In all seriousness, I wish you the best with your development and hope that you have made improved realism a top priority. If that is the case, I might just be one of the first ones to jump on board. Take care and good luck.

Peter, I really don't follow this ST3 business, but do you know when Miroslav will be 64bit? It is underrated, and I wonder if it will come sooner than ST3.

Agreed Peter,you never mentioned any release date for ST3 but I can honestly tell you a rep I spoke to at a IK demonstration last fall did tell me that they were aiming to release SampleTank 3 to coincide with NAMM this past January.
I understand delays are to be expected with any update of this magnitude but it's kind of frustrating as a client who has purchased Sampletank,Sampletron,SonicSynth and MemoryMokg and not being able to use it with DP8 since September is frustrating.
They crashe DP and are the only plugs out of a boatload I have from several companies that don't work,it's great IK updated Amplitude & tRacks to 64bit but I do wish your other products were usable presently.
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Miroslav is SampleTank2 and IK will not make 64-bit versions of SampleTank2.
So the answer is: never.

To be fair their workstations/sound modules are the only things that are not 64 bit yet. Everything else has made the move. I agree I would like to personally ditch J Bridge and go all 64 bit plug ins and the only thing I have on my PC that is 32 bit right now that I use often is Sampletank. I am excited for ST3.

I hope they won't need to and that ST3 will be out in 2013. I expect them to make a new custom shop for ST with a ton of libraries available for DL plus you can buy whatever libraries you want and the shell is basically free like Kontakt player. That is what I am hoping for anyway.

Well as a jBridge Mac user I can tell you these are the only 32bit apps I have that will not work with jBridge Mac,Joao the jBridge developer has tried to get it working it has stated there is something in IK's 32bit implementation for Mac that will not work with jBridge.
Every other 32bit plug or VI I have other than these from IK work with jBridge with DP8.01.
I've spoken to IK directly(as many other users have)MOTU & jBridge aka Joao are all aware of this.
So not being able to use these & only these for now 6 or 7 months is frustrating,
Agreed other companies products i use like SoundToys,AAS,URS etc..... these are also still 32bit but they all work with jBridge Mac only these IK VI will not.

They already have that. Minus the fancy HTML custom shop.

RE: realistic instruments. This would be a tall order, and not a smart business move, IMO. The most "realistic" instruments are already available via Kontakt w/ extensive scripting + open/closed libraries and "proprietary" engines like VSL, SWAM, Wivi, ToonTrack, FXpansion, etc. Adding a me-too general product to that mix of specialist products is just a big ol' stupid sized mountain to climb -- as in failure is almost guaranteed. Their best bet, and what I'm hoping for is ST TNG... The original ST concept with much better source material + more powerful engine with efficient throughput, lots of modulation + hybrid synthesis options... i.e., fill the "kick assiest VST ROMpler/workstation ever invented" need that I think still exists. They need to compete directly with the UVI's and HAlion Sonics of the market, not try to make a mo' better realistic acoustic drum kit, or rickenbacker bass, or electric guitar, or saxophone, trumpet, etc. For something like drums, SR already has some higher end content, so little overhead there, development wise, but for some of the other stuff... waste of time and resource, IMO. Better off with something that could literally go head to head (soundwise) with like of yamaha, korg, roland hardware workstations.

Oh no, it will not be moved onto the ST3 engine?

Legacy content will either be "imported", "converted", or directly compatible, I'm sure.