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Need help in choosing 1 Softynth to learn

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mchannemann
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135 posts since 6 Apr, 2004, from London

Postby mchannemann; Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:28 am

Mutant wrote:Learn the freeware Synth1, save the 200$ for the time when you will know what exact payware synth you need.


I second synth1,
While all the other suggestions sound great this one is basic to a positive point:
It is raw subtractive synthesis which enables to learn the basics of soubd creation.
With all the knowledge that you can learn from this you will be able to create great sounds on any synth,
And have an easy time to learn the most complex features that are available in other synhs.

Cheers
Thor
Cubase 6, Alesis Fusion, Virus Ti, Korg Triton & Digital & Analog Collection, K2000R, Yamaha CS1x, Komplete 9, Kirk Hunter Libraries, NVA Taiko Drums, Uhe Ace, Bazille and Zehbra, Polyana, Jamstix 3, Toontrack Drums and more libraries and VST's
pdxindy
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8732 posts since 2 Feb, 2005, from in the wilds

Postby pdxindy; Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:39 am

mchannemann wrote:
Mutant wrote:Learn the freeware Synth1, save the 200$ for the time when you will know what exact payware synth you need.


I second synth1,

With all the knowledge that you can learn from this you will be able to create great sounds on any synth,


Cheers
Thor


Learning Subtractive synthesis does not teach one about Additive or FM synths.
mcnoone
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5367 posts since 8 Oct, 2007, from an inharmonious society

Postby mcnoone; Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:09 am

It would good to get the CM magazine studio plugins.
Just going through those synths for some time to learn, and trying demos out.
This way when you finally choose one, you'll have a better idea of what you like.
tweiss2000
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160 posts since 31 Mar, 2004, from Nuremberg

Postby tweiss2000; Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:37 am

Just in case you want to be supported by learning sound desing in and out, you could have a look there
http://www.robpapen.com/dvd-sound-design.html
I would take a look into the previews and videos first and look than after a synth.
BASSDRIVE
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971 posts since 13 Jun, 2003, from USA

Postby BASSDRIVE; Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:56 am

I'd agree with learning the freeware Synth1 if you want to learn the basics of subtractive synthesis. Great sounding quality, very CPU friendly and easy "all in your face" to program GUI. V-Station as well. If you want to dig deeper in synthesis, then it looks like you already have everything you need to learn. Save yourself some money, perhaps buy yourself some guides instead to learn your Komplete 7 plugins.
WhySoLazy?
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91 posts since 19 Sep, 2011

Postby WhySoLazy?; Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:22 am

Diversion is on Sale again :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=371837

Have some time to test the demo , until now I really like it's sound , and with the sale price it's very tempting .

Any one have here Diversion full and can recommend it ?

Thanks
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ariston
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2831 posts since 28 Jun, 2009, from Wherever I lay my hat

Postby ariston; Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:26 am

WhySoLazy? wrote:
Any one have here Diversion full and can recommend it ?



Fantastic synth with a traditional subtractive heart and a modern modulation brain. The sound quality is pristine and crystal-clear (almost too much so), but the price tag is some serious CPU usage. You can get some very unique sounds out of it, and the effects are just top-notch, especially the reverb.

It would be one of my three desert island synths (Zebra and Alchemy being the other ones).
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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4312 posts since 24 May, 2009, from A galaxy, far far away

Postby el-bo (formerly ebow); Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:22 am

WhySoLazy? wrote:Diversion is on Sale again :

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=371837

Have some time to test the demo , until now I really like it's sound , and with the sale price it's very tempting .

Any one have here Diversion full and can recommend it ?

Thanks


i have to say that this instrument looks great....probably the best ui i've ever seen....i'm no programmer but even i can make out the path and logic....and that sale price has me even thinking...thank fluck i have enough time to work out that i don't need it

will definitely demo the thing :oops:
Phil Sonic Academy
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275 posts since 9 Aug, 2006

Postby Phil Sonic Academy; Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:57 am

You could always try the new ANA Demo see if you like the update... we will also be doing a massive series of tutorials on it in the coming weeks.

Really positive feedback on the update so far.
ScottZ
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248 posts since 19 Feb, 2011

Postby ScottZ; Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:17 am

outcastrising wrote:I agree 1000% It comes out a $20 difference a no brainer IMHO.


how does it come out to be a $20 difference dark zebra is $99 and zebra 3 upgrade I read should be $30?
Lotuzia
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7463 posts since 19 Feb, 2004, from Paris

Postby Lotuzia; Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:53 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:you have komplete, start there

massive is a good synth to learn on...and what about reaktor...some fantastic synths to learn on that are included in the install, then the user library for when you want to grow some more

save your money till you find out what it is that you aren't getting from komplete, then buy something to fill that gap


This.

Also Sylenth 1 is the easiest of all these synths to start learning.

+ You must understand that what yu'll learn with Sylenth, then Massive will serve you for ALL the synths you'll want to master after that step is assumed.

+ NI synths are of course on par quallity wise with all other synths. Just different.

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realmarco
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1366 posts since 29 Jul, 2001, from montreal, quebec,canada

Postby realmarco; Sun Jan 27, 2013 9:17 pm

WhySoLazy? wrote:
I have now Komplete 7 that include many of NI's synths but I think that they are not in the same level as Sylenth1 and Zebra 2


you are wrong!! Massive,kontakt,FM8,Absynth all very pro stuff, no offense to Zebra and sylenth1.
If your plugin is a Synth-edit/synth-maker creation, Say So.
If not Make a Mac version of your Plugins Please.

https://soundcloud.com/realmarco

...everyone is out to get me!!!!!!!
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carrieres
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1376 posts since 9 Apr, 2002, from Poissy, France

Postby carrieres; Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:22 am

i have komplete 7 too and the best money (29.50$) i have spent in 2012 is on a video lesson by macprovideo :
http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/nat ... ruments102
theses tutorials are for komplete 5 but you will get an intro to each essentials instruments : absynth, massive , fm8, reaktor ...
if you don't want to follow the entire tutorial you can buy individual and more deep tutorial for each instrument, i have followed razor and reaktor (top notch stuff)
absynth : http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/nat ... ts-absynth
massive : http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/nat ... -mo-volans
fm8 : http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/nat ... und-design
i will certainly buy this tutorial when i have some time !
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V'ger
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3920 posts since 15 Dec, 2009

Postby V'ger; Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:57 am

BASSDRIVE wrote:I'd agree with learning the freeware Synth1

But the OP is inspired and ready to really get into a synth so imo it would be a bit of a waste to spend it on of the easier synths, when now's the ideal time to get to know every knob and feature of a more intricate instrument like Zebra. He's also got the money now.
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Ingonator
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8033 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:13 am

V'ger wrote:
BASSDRIVE wrote:I'd agree with learning the freeware Synth1

But the OP is inspired and ready to really get into a synth so imo it would be a bit of a waste to spend it on of the easier synths, when now's the ideal time to get to know every knob and feature of a more intricate instrument like Zebra. He's also got the money now.

I agree to that. I have already mentioned ElectraX which got a great sound and tons of options while using an easy to use GUI.
If i would start today this would be one of my synths of choice. Another one is e.g. Synthmaster 2.5. Also Alchemy could be a choice as it offers different synth engines like e.g. VA, additive, samples, granular synthesis and spectral synthesis.

I know there is also Zebra which seems to be an obvious choice. Personally the interface of Zebra never really "clicked" with me which is one reason why i sold it.

If the focus is mostly on VA i could recommend e.g. Tone2 Saurus, Xils Lab Oxium, Waves Element (seems to be still available at a special price at JRR shop) or more simple ones like e.g. TAL U-NO-LX or kHs ONE.

Other mentioned using the synths in NI Komplete which are great for sure but the OP got that already and he asked for another synth.

It would help to hear if the OP is only interested in using "basic" subtractive synthesis or also others like e.g. additive, FM or wavetable scanning.


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