Which Audio Interface?
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helloitsmeagain helloitsmeagain https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=276569
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 18 posts since 9 Mar, 2012
So i just got my first non soft synth synths. i'm having so much fun with them i might just pop a blood vessel.
BUT
right now i'm listening in my headphones and can't get any audio into ableton. that's cause my current AI is a behringer UCA202, which i suspect is not up to the task i have in mind.. cause when i jack either the dark energy or blofeld into it, i get very little audio signal but tons of other crap. i think i just fell into trap...
so, i'm gonna buy something that costs more than 30 usd. but i need some advice here. where do i start?
firewire? usb? seems not much of any issues these days...
is this post in the wrong thread?
line-in should be good. no need for pre-amps.
and why does the Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 have 8 inputs but the Focusrite Forte, with 2, costs the same?
can i just ignore them both and buy the much cheaper Lexicon Omega 8 x 4 x 2? or should i just get a mixing desk?
Right now outboard i've just got the dark energy, a blofeld, a bcr-3000 and a midi keyboard. i'll probably add a drum machine when i can get the cash...
i'm so confused. if anyone can point me to which wikipedia article i need to read, that would help a ton.
BUT
right now i'm listening in my headphones and can't get any audio into ableton. that's cause my current AI is a behringer UCA202, which i suspect is not up to the task i have in mind.. cause when i jack either the dark energy or blofeld into it, i get very little audio signal but tons of other crap. i think i just fell into trap...
so, i'm gonna buy something that costs more than 30 usd. but i need some advice here. where do i start?
firewire? usb? seems not much of any issues these days...
is this post in the wrong thread?
line-in should be good. no need for pre-amps.
and why does the Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 have 8 inputs but the Focusrite Forte, with 2, costs the same?
can i just ignore them both and buy the much cheaper Lexicon Omega 8 x 4 x 2? or should i just get a mixing desk?
Right now outboard i've just got the dark energy, a blofeld, a bcr-3000 and a midi keyboard. i'll probably add a drum machine when i can get the cash...
i'm so confused. if anyone can point me to which wikipedia article i need to read, that would help a ton.
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- KVRAF
- 1794 posts since 17 May, 2005
Choosing an audio interface:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/a ... rfaces.htm
Choosing A PC Audio Interface:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/a ... sician.htm
Google for differences between X and Y if you want answers quick.
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep08/a ... rfaces.htm
Choosing A PC Audio Interface:
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/a ... sician.htm
Google for differences between X and Y if you want answers quick.
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helloitsmeagain helloitsmeagain https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=276569
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 18 posts since 9 Mar, 2012
Honestly, i had come across those links and read them already but they did little to illuminate me... I'm hoping that someone on the board has had a similar task and could share their experience... might be important to mention i'm on a macbook pro
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- KVRAF
- 1794 posts since 17 May, 2005
If you want a good audio interface you will spend more than $30 yes.
For an entry level audio interface look towards spending +/- $350 - $450
Brands like Focusrite and M-Audio are good for starters and work on OSX.
I'm on both pc and macbookpro and on the mbp i use the optical out and connect it to the TC BMC-2. But the digital out of the macbookpro isn't a pro audio output though, so if you want to mix professionally on the macbookpro then you need a good interface.
USB will be just fine.
If i were you, i'd look to one of the entry level audio interfaces from one of the above brands. If you think you want even better quality (AD/DA) then look towards Apogee
For an entry level audio interface look towards spending +/- $350 - $450
Brands like Focusrite and M-Audio are good for starters and work on OSX.
I'm on both pc and macbookpro and on the mbp i use the optical out and connect it to the TC BMC-2. But the digital out of the macbookpro isn't a pro audio output though, so if you want to mix professionally on the macbookpro then you need a good interface.
USB will be just fine.
If i were you, i'd look to one of the entry level audio interfaces from one of the above brands. If you think you want even better quality (AD/DA) then look towards Apogee
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- KVRAF
- 1701 posts since 19 Apr, 2003 from Copenhagen, Denmark
Your interface need a normal line level signal, so you should be able to get a fine hot signal from your Blofeld through the Behringer into the Daw.
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- KVRAF
- 15253 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Better not choose firewire, USB is better (less compatibility problems.) However if you have a desktop PC and don't plan on switching to a laptop, then PCI cards are even better (less CPU overhead needed)helloitsmeagain wrote:firewire? usb?
Nope, you created the thread (in the right forum) so that can't be wronghelloitsmeagain wrote:is this post in the wrong thread?
If you don't plan on singing / rapping / vocoding / recording acoustic instruments, then you can do without a mic preamp indeed.helloitsmeagain wrote:line-in should be good. no need for pre-amps.
Presumably because the Forte is "mastering grade" quality (120 dB dynamic range) while the Saffire is of slightly lower quality (108 dB dynamic range)? Plus the interface design is very different.helloitsmeagain wrote:and why does the Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 have 8 inputs but the Focusrite Forte, with 2, costs the same?
I'd rather not use cheap mixing desks with USB, they usually can only record the main outputs of the mixer. That Lexicon unit looks good, but the technical specs are not quite as good as those of Focusrite. Weather you can notice that in practice is another question.helloitsmeagain wrote:buy the much cheaper Lexicon Omega 8 x 4 x 2? or should i just get a mixing desk?
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- KVRian
- 1176 posts since 25 Dec, 2003 from Kentucky y'all
good but affordable Steinberg UR series. the new UR22 is $149
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- 834 posts since 20 Sep, 2012
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helloitsmeagain helloitsmeagain https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=276569
- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 18 posts since 9 Mar, 2012
great stuff guys, thanks so much for the input. at least it points me in the right direction for what i should be looking at.
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- KVRAF
- 7400 posts since 17 Feb, 2005
The whole trend with USB/Firewire interfaces was to lower the noise floor. I can't speak for USB or PCIe sound, but my firewire interface has an exceptionally low loopback noise floor at -97dBFS. Yeah, compatibility with firewire is a mess, but noise performance is exceptional if your preamps are integrated with the device. If anyone would like to quote their loopback (line out to line in) noise figures and compare I would be most agreeable.BertKoor wrote:Better not choose firewire, USB is better (less compatibility problems.) However if you have a desktop PC and don't plan on switching to a laptop, then PCI cards are even better (less CPU overhead needed)helloitsmeagain wrote:firewire? usb?Nope, you created the thread (in the right forum) so that can't be wronghelloitsmeagain wrote:is this post in the wrong thread?If you don't plan on singing / rapping / vocoding / recording acoustic instruments, then you can do without a mic preamp indeed.helloitsmeagain wrote:line-in should be good. no need for pre-amps.Presumably because the Forte is "mastering grade" quality (120 dB dynamic range) while the Saffire is of slightly lower quality (108 dB dynamic range)? Plus the interface design is very different.helloitsmeagain wrote:and why does the Focusrite Saffire PRO 40 have 8 inputs but the Focusrite Forte, with 2, costs the same?I'd rather not use cheap mixing desks with USB, they usually can only record the main outputs of the mixer. That Lexicon unit looks good, but the technical specs are not quite as good as those of Focusrite. Weather you can notice that in practice is another question.helloitsmeagain wrote:buy the much cheaper Lexicon Omega 8 x 4 x 2? or should i just get a mixing desk?
- KVRAF
- 15253 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
You get a low noisefloor through a good ADC chip, good opamps and good shielding. RMAA measured the noisefloor at -106.4 and crosstalk at -107.6 on my PCI card. So that's not exclusive to USB/FireWire cards for sure!
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- KVRAF
- 15253 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
ESI. I have a (discontinued) AudioTrak Maya 1010.camsr wrote:Who makes your interface?
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