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Microtuning in Kubik
sdv
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 2:23 pm reply with quote
Any chance of this happening; importing .tun / .scl files??

I really prefer using microtuning on synths which have 'preview bars'; z3ta and absynth have this capability (as well as metasynth where the whole pallete is a preview bar).

What I like to do is record the sound of playing the preview bar as it aloows for more of the subtle nature of the scale.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:43 am reply with quote
Hi there

I'm not sure , maybe . Does any one now and good documentations at the .tun system ?

Cheers

Jon
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:31 pm reply with quote
well..I think it comes from the SCALA software system

http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/

Maybe the docs there will help

But, Microtonaility for Kubik would be VERY Cool!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:59 pm reply with quote
Concretefx wrote:
Hi there

I'm not sure , maybe . Does any one know any good documentations at the .tun system ?

Jon


Well, Paul of zynaddsubfx here at KVR has open-sourced his VST and it includes microtuning via Scala so perhaps there is some library/code from this project which is useful;
http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/

Maybe post a question to the Zynaddsubfx forum as well??

Oh, I also just thought about TobyBear's microtonal support VSTi, I should give that a try as well.

There has to be a library of how to do this as there are so many synths these days with this feature. Might be a good idea to learn about this Jon and try it out on your old time users before putting it in any new RPFX synths. Wink

In my mind I like to think this would take the Kubik sound even further "out there" (like it does in Metasynth, oh man... you have no idea), but I wonder if the tuning makes that much of a difference in wave-morphing synths??
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:17 am reply with quote
Just wanted to add my voice for this feature -- I would love to see support for Scala's microtuning files in Kubik. Currently I use Tobybear's midi-plug, but native support would be great.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:09 pm reply with quote
I just happened to find this post. The .tun file format is really simple. It's a text file with midi note = cents assignments, first in integer, then in floating point. Changing the map frequency or the central midi note will affect the cents. This is what 12 equal temperament looks like, map frequency 261.6256 hz, central midi note 60 (C):

[Tuning]
note 0=0
note 1=100
note 2=200
...
note 125=12500
note 126=12600
note 127=12700

[Exact Tuning]
note 0= 0.000000
note 1= 100.000000
note 2= 200.000000
...
note 125= 12500.000000
note 126= 12600.000000
note 127= 12700.000000


It doesn't seem like you can unmap any keys?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:14 pm reply with quote
http://www.tobybear.de/d_tuning.html
has a Delphi CLASS for microtuning.
http://tobybear.phreque.com/files/tuning.zip
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:49 pm reply with quote
GraphMaN_USA wrote:
http://www.tobybear.de/d_tuning.html
has a Delphi CLASS for microtuning.
http://tobybear.phreque.com/files/tuning.zip


I think development on Kubik is over with but how I'd love (in theory as I don't know how it would actually sound) for the K to go micro. There's a fella who recently put out a 1000 wavetables (created in Metasynth)library for Abynth... I'd like for him to offer those in Kubik format as well.

Such a fine synth and it's too bad more won't be done with it. Sad
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:11 am reply with quote
That sounds very interesting about absynth stuff , hmm . Tuning is something that I would like (it is something that we would like to add into Blue for instance) , so I'll see what happens

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:28 am reply with quote
Concretefx wrote:
That sounds very interesting about absynth stuff , hmm .


Here's the link to the Absynth wavetables:
http://www.galbanum.com/products/architecture-ni/
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 7:55 am reply with quote
I know this is an old thread, but I was wondering since Blade has microtuning if now Kubik might have a better chance of being microtunable.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:23 am reply with quote
Possibly , I do have micro-tuning code now, but to be honest I'm snowed under with Rob's stuff, so I'm not sure when I would be able to get around to changing anything in Kubik.

Cheers

Jon
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:13 am reply with quote
Wow thanks Jon for the super quick response Very Happy

I am always on the lookout for microtunable instruments, and I found out that the Waldorf Microwave was microtunable. However, it has been a long time since I have used hardware, and I'm still debating if I really want to go back down that road again (although I really do love the sound of the Microwave.) At any rate, I did some looking on KVR and Kubik came up quite frequently as a vst option for the Microwave. So I decided to download the demo and check things out for myself. The thing is that I've really gotten to like the sound of Kubik for what it is (aside from its comparison to the Microwave.) Also, I am coming up with sounds I have not been able to create with other vsts (although in truth this might be due to how easy it is for me to tweak the presets in Kubik to my liking as opposed to other vsts.) Many thanks for designing a quality instrument.

I am really hoping you can find the time to do the microtuning for Kubik. Otherwise, I'll probably do the next best thing and purchase Kubik so I can sample the sounds and run it through Kontakt or something like that.

Again, thanks for your prompt response.
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