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C165a VCA compressor with sidechain
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:28 am reply with quote
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quintosardo wrote:
An update with the external sidechain is coming...


Will You make bg noise optional? I really like the way compressor works, but I would gladly turn this hiss off.


Bump! tell us more about what comes with the next update! Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:48 am reply with quote
External sidechain
Optional oversampling
More versatile internal set of sidechain filters
Dual mono mode

Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:41 am reply with quote
how about a talent button? come on, Quinto, you're the only one who can actually pull it off!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:10 am reply with quote
I've disabled it. It would kill the fun Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:59 am reply with quote
quintosardo wrote:
External sidechain
Optional oversampling
More versatile internal set of sidechain filters
Dual mono mode

Smile


YES YES Smile)! the optional oversampling will be great and allow a bit more instances and the external sidechain just awesome HiHi
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:04 am reply with quote
Optional noise , please, it's important to me. Exclamation Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:29 am reply with quote
Bought C165a few days ago.
I have found that the most useful ranges for me are:
1. Attack - 10..1
2. Release - 100..10

But when I try to change values in this ranges - C165a feedback is too extreme.

After Cubase 7 relise I decided to buy VST3 plugs (VST3 plugs are able to sleep when there is no audio)

Dear SKNote, are you having any plans for VST3 relise?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:54 am reply with quote
I don't know. I cannot see the real sense of it.
We must complete RTAS(AAX before that, anyway Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:34 am reply with quote
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I don't know. I cannot see the real sense of it.

There are 2 important advantages to VST3 in a VST3 enabled host:

1. It's transparently easy to set up a sidechain in VST3: insert an instance of the plug in, enable the sidechain, and any channel(s) can then be sent to it. Much clearer, easier and faster than setting up a specialized Quadro channel and manually setting up the routing. If I need a sidechained comp, I will always use a VST3 enabled one.

2. A VST3 plugin is capable of suspending processing if there is no input. The more we mix ITB, the more we are becoming aware of how much CPU is required to process in high quality using internal high internal sampling rates and/or complex math. If all our plugins are doing this, then suspending processing when not in use gives our systems a serious CPU overhead advantage.

There are other advantages (like multi-channel operation) but these are the two most important and relevant for most. Thanks for considering!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:52 am reply with quote
Breeze wrote:
quintosardo wrote:
I don't know. I cannot see the real sense of it.

There are 2 important advantages to VST3 in a VST3 enabled host:

1. It's transparently easy to set up a sidechain in VST3: insert an instance of the plug in, enable the sidechain, and any channel(s) can then be sent to it. Much clearer, easier and faster than setting up a specialized Quadro channel and manually setting up the routing. If I need a sidechained comp, I will always use a VST3 enabled one.

it's hard only in Cubase Smile in e.g. REAPER it's dead easy.

Breeze wrote:
2. A VST3 plugin is capable of suspending processing if there is no input. The more we mix ITB, the more we are becoming aware of how much CPU is required to process in high quality using internal high internal sampling rates and/or complex math. If all our plugins are doing this, then suspending processing when not in use gives our systems a serious CPU overhead advantage.

not that much of an advantage, there's freeze functionality, and if you're a REAPER user like me, you can even unload the plugin from memory completely while retaining its configuration.

Breeze wrote:
There are other advantages (like multi-channel operation) but these are the two most important and relevant for most. Thanks for considering!

again, nothing that can't be done if you're not using Cubase Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 am reply with quote
krandr wrote:
Bought C165a few days ago.
I have found that the most useful ranges for me are:
1. Attack - 10..1
2. Release - 100..10

But when I try to change values in this ranges - C165a feedback is too extreme.


Sorry, SKNote, but what about extreme behavior of the Attack and Release knobs.
Is there any key for pressing to switch behavior?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:16 am reply with quote
Burillo wrote:


not that much of an advantage, there's freeze functionality, and if you're a REAPER user like me, you can even unload the plugin from memory completely while retaining its configuration.



I don't understand mixing process with frozen tracks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:22 am reply with quote
Burillo wrote:

it's hard only in Cubase in e.g. REAPER it's dead easy.


VST3 bus processing is very complex.
For example if you wrote EQ VST3 plugin, it can process all channels in the strip (stereo, quadro, Dolby 5.1)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:43 am reply with quote
krandr wrote:
I don't understand mixing process with frozen tracks.

turn up the buffer then. problem solved Smile no need for an entirely new VST standard.
krandr wrote:
VST3 bus processing is very complex.
For example if you wrote EQ VST3 plugin, it can process all channels in the strip (stereo, quadro, Dolby 5.1)

OK, and when was the last time anyone needed this? Smile that's something only a small minority needs, and there are already VST2 plugins that can cover these use cases.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:16 am reply with quote
Clearly as long as Burillo is happy everything is ok. The rest of us should just work in stereo and switch to Reaper... Wink
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