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analoguesamples909
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1524 posts since 28 Dec, 2007

Postby analoguesamples909; Sat Feb 09, 2013 7:45 am SPDIF MIDI Interface?

Hi Oz - I just saw your video for ES4 turning into a sample accurate jitter free MIDI interface. Its amazing. I was wondering if you planned on making a distinct device - like a kenton box - that you could just plug into a spdif equipped interface and get good MIDI timing? I dont own a eurorack modular or have room for one...Given the despair over MIDI timing I would have thought people would love it...
os
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953 posts since 21 Mar, 2002, from UK

Postby os; Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:38 am

It's a possibility. However, it's so easy to just put an ES-4 in a Doepfer Minicase, which then takes up as much room as a dedicated SPDIF-MIDI box would anyway.
analoguesamples909
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Postby analoguesamples909; Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:26 am

cool...thats probably more expensive and less streamlined tho...
The MIDI with the ES4 - is it polyphonic and can it be multiple channels? Out of interest (if its not too hard to eplain) - what is the reason behind the 48k SR minimum?
os
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Postby os; Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:33 am

It's everything you'd expect a MIDI port to offer. I.e. 16 channels per physical port, all the usual messages supported.

44.1kHz actually seems to work fine for most things. There are just a small number of devices that don't work reliably at that rate.
analoguesamples909
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Postby analoguesamples909; Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:13 am

os wrote:It's everything you'd expect a MIDI port to offer. I.e. 16 channels per physical port, all the usual messages supported.

44.1kHz actually seems to work fine for most things. There are just a small number of devices that don't work reliably at that rate.


wow thats amazing...
analoguesamples909
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Postby analoguesamples909; Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:10 am

oz sorry to bother you again - is the ES5 needed to be used with the ES4 for MIDI - or is that to get extra channels?

All in it looks like £181 for the ES4, ES5 £96, Doepfer mini case £76 so either £257 or £353 for a SPDIF MIDI set-up depending on if you need the es5
os
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Postby os; Mon Mar 11, 2013 7:27 am

You'd want the ESX-8GT to get MIDI from the ES-4.
analoguesamples909
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Postby analoguesamples909; Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:13 am

ah thats great £77...so around £150 for a set-up....
analoguesamples909
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Postby analoguesamples909; Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:37 am

is it possible to use ADAT optical with these solutions? If I switch to a Allen Heath Zed desk I realised I loose a SPDIF...
os
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Postby os; Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:27 pm

Then you want ES-3 plus ES-5.
grimleyj
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Postby grimleyj; Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:22 pm

os wrote:You'd want the ESX-8GT to get MIDI from the ES-4.


So I can't use the ES-4 by itself with a dj-1000 midi/3.5mm cable? I thought the ESX-8GT / ES-4 Gate Expander just added additional identical output connectors. Confused!
os
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Postby os; Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:07 am

No, the expander has 5V logic outputs, very different from the ES-4's own CV outputs.
analoguesamples909
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Postby analoguesamples909; Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:02 am

So you need the ES3 - then the ES5 for the MIDI bit? for ADAT to MIDI in 2 stages...

Similar - you need the ES4 - then the ESX-8GT for the MIDI for SPDIF to MIDI in 2 stages...

ok I think I get it...
os
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Postby os; Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:50 am

Yes, you got it.

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