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C165a VCA compressor with sidechain

Official support for: sknote.it

Moderator: quintosardo

KVRer
 
13 posts since 30 Mar, 2002, from Poland
 

Postby dr_After; Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:28 am

dr_After wrote:
quintosardo wrote:An update with the external sidechain is coming...


Will You make bg noise optional? I really like the way compressor works, but I would gladly turn this hiss off.


Bump! tell us more about what comes with the next update! :)
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KVRAF
 
3300 posts since 15 Jul, 2004, from Italy
 

Postby quintosardo; Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:48 am

External sidechain
Optional oversampling
More versatile internal set of sidechain filters
Dual mono mode

:)
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KVRAF
 
1518 posts since 15 Nov, 2006, from Hell

Postby Burillo; Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:41 am

how about a talent button? come on, Quinto, you're the only one who can actually pull it off!
From Russia with love
KVRAF
 
3300 posts since 15 Jul, 2004, from Italy
 

Postby quintosardo; Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:10 am

I've disabled it. It would kill the fun ;)
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324 posts since 31 Aug, 2012

Postby lacandon; Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:59 am

quintosardo wrote:External sidechain
Optional oversampling
More versatile internal set of sidechain filters
Dual mono mode

:)


YES YES :))! the optional oversampling will be great and allow a bit more instances and the external sidechain just awesome :hihi:
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13 posts since 30 Mar, 2002, from Poland
 

Postby dr_After; Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:04 am

Optional noise , please, it's important to me. :!: :D
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193 posts since 30 Jun, 2011

Postby krandr; Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:29 am

Bought C165a few days ago.
I have found that the most useful ranges for me are:
1. Attack - 10..1
2. Release - 100..10

But when I try to change values in this ranges - C165a feedback is too extreme.

After Cubase 7 relise I decided to buy VST3 plugs (VST3 plugs are able to sleep when there is no audio)

Dear SKNote, are you having any plans for VST3 relise?
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3300 posts since 15 Jul, 2004, from Italy
 

Postby quintosardo; Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:54 am

I don't know. I cannot see the real sense of it.
We must complete RTAS(AAX before that, anyway :)
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1583 posts since 13 Oct, 2002

Postby Breeze; Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:34 am

quintosardo wrote:I don't know. I cannot see the real sense of it.

There are 2 important advantages to VST3 in a VST3 enabled host:

1. It's transparently easy to set up a sidechain in VST3: insert an instance of the plug in, enable the sidechain, and any channel(s) can then be sent to it. Much clearer, easier and faster than setting up a specialized Quadro channel and manually setting up the routing. If I need a sidechained comp, I will always use a VST3 enabled one.

2. A VST3 plugin is capable of suspending processing if there is no input. The more we mix ITB, the more we are becoming aware of how much CPU is required to process in high quality using internal high internal sampling rates and/or complex math. If all our plugins are doing this, then suspending processing when not in use gives our systems a serious CPU overhead advantage.

There are other advantages (like multi-channel operation) but these are the two most important and relevant for most. Thanks for considering!
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1518 posts since 15 Nov, 2006, from Hell

Postby Burillo; Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:52 am

Breeze wrote:
quintosardo wrote:I don't know. I cannot see the real sense of it.

There are 2 important advantages to VST3 in a VST3 enabled host:

1. It's transparently easy to set up a sidechain in VST3: insert an instance of the plug in, enable the sidechain, and any channel(s) can then be sent to it. Much clearer, easier and faster than setting up a specialized Quadro channel and manually setting up the routing. If I need a sidechained comp, I will always use a VST3 enabled one.

it's hard only in Cubase :-) in e.g. REAPER it's dead easy.

Breeze wrote:2. A VST3 plugin is capable of suspending processing if there is no input. The more we mix ITB, the more we are becoming aware of how much CPU is required to process in high quality using internal high internal sampling rates and/or complex math. If all our plugins are doing this, then suspending processing when not in use gives our systems a serious CPU overhead advantage.

not that much of an advantage, there's freeze functionality, and if you're a REAPER user like me, you can even unload the plugin from memory completely while retaining its configuration.

Breeze wrote:There are other advantages (like multi-channel operation) but these are the two most important and relevant for most. Thanks for considering!

again, nothing that can't be done if you're not using Cubase :-)
From Russia with love
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193 posts since 30 Jun, 2011

Postby krandr; Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:11 am

krandr wrote:Bought C165a few days ago.
I have found that the most useful ranges for me are:
1. Attack - 10..1
2. Release - 100..10

But when I try to change values in this ranges - C165a feedback is too extreme.


Sorry, SKNote, but what about extreme behavior of the Attack and Release knobs.
Is there any key for pressing to switch behavior?
Last edited by krandr on Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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193 posts since 30 Jun, 2011

Postby krandr; Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:16 am

Burillo wrote:
not that much of an advantage, there's freeze functionality, and if you're a REAPER user like me, you can even unload the plugin from memory completely while retaining its configuration.



I don't understand mixing process with frozen tracks.
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193 posts since 30 Jun, 2011

Postby krandr; Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:22 am

Burillo wrote:it's hard only in Cubase in e.g. REAPER it's dead easy.


VST3 bus processing is very complex.
For example if you wrote EQ VST3 plugin, it can process all channels in the strip (stereo, quadro, Dolby 5.1)
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KVRAF
 
1518 posts since 15 Nov, 2006, from Hell

Postby Burillo; Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:43 am

krandr wrote:I don't understand mixing process with frozen tracks.

turn up the buffer then. problem solved :-) no need for an entirely new VST standard.
krandr wrote:VST3 bus processing is very complex.
For example if you wrote EQ VST3 plugin, it can process all channels in the strip (stereo, quadro, Dolby 5.1)

OK, and when was the last time anyone needed this? :-) that's something only a small minority needs, and there are already VST2 plugins that can cover these use cases.
From Russia with love
KVRAF
 
1583 posts since 13 Oct, 2002

Postby Breeze; Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:16 am

Clearly as long as Burillo is happy everything is ok. The rest of us should just work in stereo and switch to Reaper... ;)
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