How to get this sub bass

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Hi,
Can anyone point me in the right direction of how to achieve the sort of sub bass in this track? Everytime I try, it sounds awful. The one in this track seems to have a lot of low end energy, but also seems very controlled (if that makes sense). Mine always sound so messy in comparison. I know that I should be going for a sort of sine wave, but what processing/eq etc should I be looking to add to get this sound.
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmCKzWoL-_k

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you can do it with a 800 kick and a low sine wave

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Sounds like an 808 kick sample to me. No FX required.
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hmmmm I'll have to have a go at that. Would you say the same for this one too?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUgqGPpmkc4

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2nd vid is a sub bassline. 1st sounds like an 808 kick. Not the same.
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thanks.
how would you go about achieving the bass from the 2nd video?

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Sounds like a sinewave with fast but not clicky-fast attack, medium decay, medium-high sustain and medium-fast release.
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whenever ive tried using a sine it never seems to sound right. what would you do processing wise?

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