hi everybody,

in this video bellow David Guetta referes that he pitches the bassdrum to the key of the track (Min. 1:25).

My question are, how do you get it on logic and with which plugin do you analyse the key?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEfeh0bQ504&feature=player_em bedded

Thank you!

well a lot of people can do it by ear after a while. I don't use Logic, but you need a frequency analyzer or EQ that will tell you the pitch/note. Voxengo Curve EQ comes to mind.

Use This : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_key_frequencies

And Span : http://www.voxengo.com/product/span/


Tune the Kick to the Song ?

Old Post : http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=288130

does it really matter much or is it not bad if i use g5 instead of c5 for example?

Well it is gonna be really high for a kick, but hey, artistic decisions....

It's not always best to tune your kick drum to your bass, if they are perfectly in key and your kick/sub are playing at the same time you may get phase issues/ cancellation

Something to bare in mind

Mike

No, if they are perfectly in key and phase they won't have any cancellation issues. If you don't tune your kick, you can end up with all sorts of phasing issues. Its usually best to tune your kick to some degree to minimize any phasing issues. There will always be phasing of some sort if your kick/sub overlap, but if you tune it properly you can normalize the phasing spikes/gaps due to pitch differences instead of having it random and all over the place.

Maybe this helps, I've always made it like that:
I always play the main Melody part (in my case mostly a piano in the Verse)
togheter with the kick drum pitch 1 or 2 octave up. so i can clearly hear, if the key of the kick matches. if it doesn't, I simply pitch it up/down by a few semitones.
After that, i pitch it down to the right octave.

I think it's okay, if you choose a key of the song. If your song is in C, then it's also okay to choose a kick in G for example.

Hope this helps
Dios

Just drop the kick into an exs24 and play around with the pitch until you feel it out. If you want to detect the key of the sample kick, izotope iris is a really intuitive sampler that is worth looking into.

Melodyne percussive detection algorithm can also help to tune your kick.

Tune the kick to the root or the fifth.

Is there an easy way to find the key of the kick drum and tune it without having to throw the sound into a sampler? Like a plugin especially for that?

i recommend you do it in some synth because u lost naturalness of that sample of kick..

i got one time very nice drums synthesizer:
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/microtonic_andmicro_tonic_by _sonic_charge

and if i do what u want to do i use that and u will have 100% in tune kick and u can also make in tune snare and hats or whatever..

but dont forget..

if your song is in for example E not snare will be in E that is if i remmember good eight semitone from kick.. i should verify that.. but next thing what i dont know surely but probably like i read in this post is it true but kick drum maybe shouldnt be in key of song maybe six semitones down but i really dont know and i dont mind.. (i use ni maschine samples and that is prettiest drums i ever heard:) nevermind..) u must figure it somewhere.. but last thing what i remember, i read it from wikihow, kick drum should be in E..

hope help just a little..

So changing the pitch on a kick in EXS24 won't mess with the "expression" of the original sound? When changing the pitch on guitars in Melodyne for example, the sound (not just the pitch) changes for the worse - it sounds enclosed.

I wouldn't want to change the key of a kick too much.

Try and find a sample that is of the key your working in, or maybe 2 notes out, then use transposition.

Any more than that and the kick starts to degrade imo