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IK Miroslav philharmonik or total workstation XL?
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jeshi
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:56 pm reply with quote
I went ahead and bought miroslav at the special price running now.

I did download sampletank free and checked out all the sounds, and the only ones that I really liked were from the miroslav collection and the accordion and harmonium which is why I was hesitant. Everything else in the demo I had covered somewhere else and felt my other VI sounded better. The difference between the normal pricing of miroslav to workstation made it tempting, but with the $50 miroslav, an extra $150 for total workstation doesn't make sense for me given what I heard in the demo.

But I am looking forward to using miroslav.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:52 pm reply with quote
Great choice! Of all the other IK VIs, Sonik Synth is probably the most versatile and best bang for the buck, with lots of great (and rare!) vintage synths and real instruments in all categories too. And at these prices, it's hard to go wrong!

As to Sampletank's sound quality, one trick I use on all my IK stuff is the Tone Control in the effects section. Put it on one of the Master effects slots in Sampletank Free, and step thru the drums and basses again. It's the closest thing to a "bigger, better" button in ST, and puts it head to head with MUCH pricier and CPU hungry VIs.

Also, don't forget that buying thru eSoundz.com will get you a FREE Xpansion Tank or Retank loop library worth $49, so it's like getting Sonik Synth for nothing! You get IK jampoints as usual AND eSoundz epointz too. Also, remember to refer someone at checkout for epointz, here's a list of KVRers and their eSoundz names:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=217796

And here's the deal at eSoundz:

http://www.esoundz.com/details.php?ProductID=5031

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:26 am reply with quote
Xenobt wrote:
Great choice! Of all the other IK VIs, Sonik Synth is probably the most versatile and best bang for the buck, with lots of great (and rare!) vintage synths and real instruments in all categories too. And at these prices, it's hard to go wrong!
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You are totally right, i often play around with it in standalone mode which works great. When i use it in Reaper or Live it crashes too often, so i feel me like back in the 90s with my amiga 500 and protracker Wink. I contacted the IK support and these guys are sending the same workaround shit over and over but beeing lazy to fix this SampleTank bug. It seems the ICrap stuff has more priority. Im really dissatified and IK dont give a ++++.

As Peter wrote a lot of peoples using IK stuff but i read a lot forum posts from people who has similar issues. Not a few, a lot!

For now im using TRacks in my main setup which works awesome. This is a really good product! Amplitube too.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:47 am reply with quote
To me, the only IK product that works good is Amplitube. I have several orchestral libraries and Miroslav is pretty weak compared even with the free ones (Sonatina, Embertone Strings...etc). I can use it just as a "stage microphone" to other libraries to thicken the sound.
For the rest of the sounds you would be better with buying a synth plugin than having a sampled synth library.

That is just my personal opinion.
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Peter - IK Multimedia
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:12 am reply with quote
wehkah wrote:
Xenobt wrote:
Great choice! Of all the other IK VIs, Sonik Synth is probably the most versatile and best bang for the buck, with lots of great (and rare!) vintage synths and real instruments in all categories too. And at these prices, it's hard to go wrong!
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You are totally right, i often play around with it in standalone mode which works great. When i use it in Reaper or Live it crashes too often, so i feel me like back in the 90s with my amiga 500 and protracker Wink. I contacted the IK support and these guys are sending the same workaround shit over and over but beeing lazy to fix this SampleTank bug. It seems the ICrap stuff has more priority. Im really dissatified and IK dont give a ++++.

As Peter wrote a lot of peoples using IK stuff but i read a lot forum posts from people who has similar issues. Not a few, a lot!

For now im using TRacks in my main setup which works awesome. This is a really good product! Amplitube too.

Do you have a ticket number where your issue was not handled to your satisfaction? Please provide it, thanks. We do indeed give a ++++ and I merely pointed out that thousands use it without a hitch and we'd like to help you be among those people. iOS (and now Android) products have actually be updated less than the desktop products in 2012 and 2013 so far. At NAMM we did have lots of mobile products displayed but I know that a Product Manager and I spent quite a bit of time meeting with people about non-iOS products more than iOS. We're not going to ignore a market that can fund the desktop portion of our offerings, though, but we are developing things in parallel and will have more T-RackS gear soon, more AmpliTube gear (and have been making changes to Custom Shop to make your experience better and will continue there too), as well as SampleTank 3 development. The last item mentioned also lends itself directly to the notion of working in parallel as you can hear versions of the work we've done for SampleTank 3 in iOS products like iLectric Piano, SampleTank iOS, and iGrand Piano so we're not wasting time we're doing our best to be most efficient and bring you great products that we can be proud to release.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:02 am reply with quote
pm'ed you Peter .. cheers
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:13 pm reply with quote
The sampletank stuff, while not the most full-featured, certainly oozes character. Almost everything is just plain fun to play, which gets ideas down quicker. My deadlines are super tight, so anything that will trigger my creative side quicker is great in my book.
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