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Piano chord voicing

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.

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jancivil
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9370 posts since 20 Oct, 2007

Postby jancivil; Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:58 am

xtp wrote: how do you decide which hand plays which notes, is it a style thing, or is there some formality behind the choice, or would you vary it depending on what comes next -
The answer is in the question. Style should determine a lot and voicing is going to work best with 'voice-leading' in mind.

The particular things you showed an image of might very well be handled the same by a pianist as a guitarist, depending.

the rote ideation of eg., an octave in the left hand for the putative 'bass' of the harmony may not be apt. Context and situation is crucial.
blueman
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1253 posts since 28 May, 2008, from Saint Paul, MN

Postby blueman; Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:01 am

jancivil wrote:the rote ideation of eg., an octave in the left hand for the putative 'bass' of the harmony may not be apt. Context and situation is crucial.


You must be a pianist! :D
jancivil
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Postby jancivil; Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:21 am

not even hardly.
DefiantCatz70
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Postby DefiantCatz70; Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:38 am

I've seen adverts of a Ebook called String Theory: Guitar and Piano Chords in Parallel.
DefiantCatz70
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Postby DefiantCatz70; Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:14 am

Is this Ebook any good?
blueman
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Postby blueman; Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:58 am

This video speaks to some of things we discussed. I particularly like how he explains the tonal differences between voicing lower (bass) notes and higher notes, based on their harmonic relationship and weight; specifically, he explains the importance of spacing out the lower notes more, to avoid muddiness. This is a good synopsis for voicing chords.

As a guideline, if we keep the bass notes farther (spaced) apart and the higher notes closer together, we should be OK in most situations. Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL3Y9B34_7w
jancivil
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Postby jancivil; Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:41 am

blueman wrote:based on their harmonic relationship and weight; specifically, he explains the importance of spacing out the lower notes more, to avoid muddiness. This is a good synopsis for voicing chords.
this is a good rule of thumb for any arranging really. at the end of the day this is a miniature orchestration problem.

one thing to look at might be transcriptions of JS Bach for classical guitar, to gain a perspective a guitarist used to block chords and root position may be lacking, as say an intermediate step to the way a pianist or an orchestrator approaches.
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