Plug-ins, Hosts, Apps,
Hardware, Soundware
Developers
(Brands)
Videos Groups
Whats's in?
Banks & Patches
Download & Upload
Music Search
KVR
   
KVR Forum » DSP and Plug-in Development
Thread Read
Cracked
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
DuX
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- www
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:08 pm reply with quote
You know, ntom, clipping is mostly the same process whatever you use, plugin or otherwise. Hardware clipping sounds even worse these days than software, and some "wise" people used to use hardware clipping back in the day [today, too, I guess].

Use your ears, not eyes. Compare. LISTEN.
----

It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
^ Joined: 14 Mar 2002  Member: #2120  Location: Underworld
AdmiralQuality
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- e-mail
- www
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:11 pm reply with quote
DuX wrote:
You know, ntom, clipping is mostly the same process whatever you use, plugin or otherwise. Hardware clipping sounds even worse these days than software, and some "wise" people used to use hardware clipping back in the day [today, too, I guess].

Use your ears, not eyes. Compare. LISTEN.


That's not true. Digital clipping causes aliasing that isn't present in analog clipping. (Now, digital hardware may clip as bad as software, I'm not sure what you mean by "hardware" as there's no such thing as software without hardware.)
^ Joined: 10 Oct 2005  Member: #83902  Location: Toronto, Canada
random_id
KVRist
- profile
- pm
- e-mail
- www
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:02 pm reply with quote
AdmiralQuality wrote:

That's not true. Digital clipping causes aliasing that isn't present in analog clipping. (Now, digital hardware may clip as bad as software, I'm not sure what you mean by "hardware" as there's no such thing as software without hardware.)


Well, you can always splurge for the $11.76 version that includes oversampling to remove those nasty aliasing artifacts. Smile

I will say, I am surprised at how much clipping needs to occur before you notice really nasty distortion effects. For me, I have been using ClipShifter more on busses to add a more saturated sound with a compression effect. I have been setting the initial threshold at a higher level then the ending threshold. The result is that louder sections get more of a saturated sound, but the sharper dynamics get passed through with less coloration. For single tracks (drums or bass), I like doing the reverse. By setting the initial threshold lower than the ending threshold, the starting transient signal gets clipped substantially more, while the remainder of the sound is minimally clipped.

Anyhow, give the free one a try and let me know what you think. I am always open to suggestions.
^ Joined: 30 Apr 2006  Member: #106122  Location: Lancaster, PA
AdmiralQuality
KVRAF
- profile
- pm
- e-mail
- www
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:13 pm reply with quote
random_id wrote:
AdmiralQuality wrote:

That's not true. Digital clipping causes aliasing that isn't present in analog clipping. (Now, digital hardware may clip as bad as software, I'm not sure what you mean by "hardware" as there's no such thing as software without hardware.)


Well, you can always splurge for the $11.76 version that includes oversampling to remove those nasty aliasing artifacts. Smile


Yes. I certainly didn't mean to suggest there aren't techniques to mitigate aliasing from intentional clipping in the digital realm.
^ Joined: 10 Oct 2005  Member: #83902  Location: Toronto, Canada
random_id
KVRist
- profile
- pm
- e-mail
- www
PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:43 pm reply with quote
AdmiralQuality wrote:
Yes. I certainly didn't mean to suggest there aren't techniques to mitigate aliasing from intentional clipping in the digital realm.


Nah, it was just a way of slipping in a shameless plug.
^ Joined: 30 Apr 2006  Member: #106122  Location: Lancaster, PA
All times are GMT - 8 Hours

Printable version
Page 7 of 7
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
Display posts from previous:   
ReplyNew TopicPrevious TopicNext Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Username: Password:  
KVR Developer Challenge 2012