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Ableton Live 9 announced

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mcnelson
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651 posts since 26 Mar, 2004, from Surrey, UK

Postby mcnelson; Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:14 pm

ModuLR wrote:
ezelkow1 wrote:Yes, pretty sure they've said that if you go to regular live 9 you will keep any instruments you already have if your coming from suite. You lose out then on anything new specific to l9 suite, so all the new content packs, m4l, and the new m4l effects/instruments/midi/etc, plus of course any new things they may add to suite


thanks for the info.

I think the difference in upgrade price for Live 8 Suite to Live 9 Standard vs Live 8 Suite to Live 9 Suite is only about £50. For that you get M4L, the Live 9 devices and a shed load of content (session drums, session strings etc). Sure, if you have those packs it might not be much of a proposition.
ABLETON LIVE 9 : TRACKTION 5 : AUDIO DAMAGE : SONIC CHARGE : SUGAR BYTES : TWISTED TOOLS
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pdxindy
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8637 posts since 2 Feb, 2005, from in the wilds

Postby pdxindy; Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:49 pm

hibidy wrote:
shanecgriffo wrote:
hibidy wrote:I've gotta try the moving live 8 library thing and see if it helps with session drummer (and some of the other presets)

The one thing that seems to have changed in 9 that I don't think I could live w/o is how recording is done. I'm no expert, but it seems better in 9 being able to record let's say, a guitar part and and then it will loop depending on where you hit stop for example. Seems in 8 you had to constantly go in and change the recorded part length but I admit, my memory is really bad.....so not sure WHAT they changed.

If it wasn't for that, I'd clean install 8.4 and forget about it. :shrug:


If you stop recording pretty promptly live will crop the clip to the nearest bar just gone so you don't have to change the length manually any more.. Makes it a bit quicker.. Also it seems to tie in with the global quantize function , so you can set it so you could possibly record for 2 bars but have say , a four bar clip etc..


Right. And considering how much guitar and bass I record it's a luxury (plus it's better for looping in general)

That's the one thing I really like about 9



I like the new midi tools... especially the brackets

I also like the curves in automation...

and even though it is a small thing, I quite like the track templates.

Damnit, I cannot go back to 8!
pdxindy
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8637 posts since 2 Feb, 2005, from in the wilds

Postby pdxindy; Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:51 pm

mcnelson wrote:
ModuLR wrote:
ezelkow1 wrote:Yes, pretty sure they've said that if you go to regular live 9 you will keep any instruments you already have if your coming from suite. You lose out then on anything new specific to l9 suite, so all the new content packs, m4l, and the new m4l effects/instruments/midi/etc, plus of course any new things they may add to suite


thanks for the info.

I think the difference in upgrade price for Live 8 Suite to Live 9 Standard vs Live 8 Suite to Live 9 Suite is only about £50. For that you get M4L, the Live 9 devices and a shed load of content (session drums, session strings etc). Sure, if you have those packs it might not be much of a proposition.


I am going for the 9 Suite... at that extra price, M4L becomes a no-brainer for me...
ulozilla
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169 posts since 12 Aug, 2004, from Santiago Chile

Postby ulozilla; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:09 am

Will this 64 bit version of live run 32 bits plugins? like reaper does for example... ?
ezelkow1
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1239 posts since 15 Jan, 2010, from Denver

Postby ezelkow1; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:13 am

ulozilla wrote:Will this 64 bit version of live run 32 bits plugins? like reaper does for example... ?


No, theres no built in bitbridge, you'd need jbridge for that
pc999
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1110 posts since 18 Aug, 2009

Postby pc999; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:19 am

Just by curiosity.

Does the Audio t Midi thing works on realtime, ie, can I play live a guitar transformed into a synth?
dsan@mail.com
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1958 posts since 29 Sep, 2005

Postby dsan@mail.com; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:23 am

pdxindy wrote:
I like the new midi tools... especially the brackets

I also like the curves in automation...

and even though it is a small thing, I quite like the track templates.

Damnit, I cannot go back to 8!


pdxindy, can you explain the brackets and track templates? 'specially, what are the brackets all about?

Thanks!

Happy musiking!
dsan
ulozilla
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169 posts since 12 Aug, 2004, from Santiago Chile

Postby ulozilla; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:25 am

ezelkow1 wrote:
ulozilla wrote:Will this 64 bit version of live run 32 bits plugins? like reaper does for example... ?


No, theres no built in bitbridge, you'd need jbridge for that


That's very bad news to me at least....all the other features look great
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robojam
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20503 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:31 am

ulozilla wrote:That's very bad news to me at least....all the other features look great

jBridge is really cheap though...
hibidy
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40517 posts since 20 Dec, 2005

Postby hibidy; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:34 am

Have to say, the mind boggles that after 3+ years of being x64 that this is still a concern. I applaud all those that have gone x64 (software) but it's been a long tough road.
analoguesamples909
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1487 posts since 28 Dec, 2007

Postby analoguesamples909; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:46 am

any idea/info how much the regular upgrade from Live 8 to Live 9 will be?
dsan@mail.com
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1958 posts since 29 Sep, 2005

Postby dsan@mail.com; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:50 am

hibidy wrote:Have to say, the mind boggles that after 3+ years of being x64 that this is still a concern. I applaud all those that have gone x64 (software) but it's been a long tough road.


Unfortunately some of my plugins remain 32 bit and having to spend more money for a bridger doesn't bode well when having to spend $200 for an update.

I can understand Ableton wanting to move into the current what with 64 bit et al, but I would think too they would want to be supportive of their customers as they want their customers to be supportive of them.

Additionally, adding more programs means more CPU use, ram use, etc. and for those with limited resources this creates a burden on productivity, no matter how minimal.

Still, had to deal with Live 32bit and unable to use 64 bit plugins so I guess I can cope with not being able to use my 32 bit plugs in Live 64. I definitely need to go 64 bit to take advantage of the increased ram I have.

Happy musiking!
dsan
dsan@mail.com
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1958 posts since 29 Sep, 2005

Postby dsan@mail.com; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:51 am

analoguesamples909 wrote:any idea/info how much the regular upgrade from Live 8 to Live 9 will be?


You have to log-in to your Ableton account and it will show you your price on the shopping page.

Happy musiking!
dsan
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3742 posts since 12 May, 2008

Postby Echoes in the Attic; Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:58 am

pc999 wrote:Just by curiosity.

Does the Audio t Midi thing works on realtime, ie, can I play live a guitar transformed into a synth?


No it's not real-time. For real-time guitar to midi, check out Midi Guitar:
http://www.jamorigin.com/midi-guitar/Wi ... index.html
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rod_zero
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608 posts since 28 Jan, 2011, from MEXICO

Postby rod_zero; Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:01 am

dsan@mail.com wrote:
I can understand Ableton wanting to move into the current what with 64 bit et al, but I would think too they would want to be supportive of their customers as they want their customers to be supportive of them.


ABleton is providing both version if you need them, I don't see why they have to provide the bridge. The support rests on the plug in developer, not the DAW developer.
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