The Telenator wrote:Peter, I don't care in the slightest whether you call my post a "tirade" or a "prayer for ethical behavior". You're trying to wear TWO hats here and those of us who weren't born yesterday see it for what it is: You're pulling a sales job right in the middle of some chap's sincere thread searching for quality amp sims. You IK Multimedia blokes are in these KVR forums constantly hawking your stuff. There are loads of other devs and proprietors who post in these threads and almost none of them pull this. These little firms are beating you fair and square because of the outstanding quality of their hard work and not through their very limited advertising budgets.
It's just not my fault your amps all sound about the same to me and rather nondescript and average. Even MusicRadar said the same recently in their all-time best amp sims list. I suggest that if you were truly secure in believing yours were better that you wouldn't become so quickly offended and go on the attack. To me, that's a clear sign of insecurity. May I suggest Dale Carnagie's classic book, How to Win Friends and Influence People? By the way, most in business know those tactics are a lousy way to attract or retain customers. It's just plain bad business. Now, how about take out an advert, aye?
It is not his fault all the amps sound the same to you. Did you ever think maybe it's you and not Amplitubes fault either though. That was not an attack or a dig, there is nothing wrong with having a preference and sticking to it...I if that were wrong it would be ridiculous no? I can relate to an extent but no one will ever tell me that if something doesn't sound good it's the fault of anyone but myself. In my youth some of the things I used for amps were a riot, not even amps sometimes in fact my first fuzz device was an old radio shack 8-track recorder I use to peg the vu meters and back then not knowing any better I called it the "Jimi Hendrix" sound (keep that part of "back then when I didn't know any better" in the back of your mind for a sec).
I have a few amp sims including AT but because of the way Revalver treated me and a couple of others when he sold out to Peavey I wont touch that sim. (sometimes it's a matter one's own values, not deciding with ears or eyes but saying no to poor business practices) Ironically I am also someone who has spoke out before more than once about IK coming into every thread advertising. Both Brian and Obik would like nothing more I'm sure than to see ol' Hink vanish but Peter is a very good friend...and he knows how much I hate IK doing that. I have even called this place IKvR. With that said, I think in this case you are dead wrong.
In the threads that mention another company in the title IK should keep their marketing out of it, for instance if there was a thread "what is your favorite amp in GT5 IK imho is out of line when they come in say "if you like those try our ######". That's not the case here, the question was asked about all sims and if that's not a place to pitch their product I dont know what is. You should keep in mind that some people's income actually depends on sales, it's their job...do you want people telling you how to do your job?
You're a music teacher correct? I found it a laughable moment when you said it's okay for others to state their opinions, thanx for the permission...and I didn't even raise my hand
Do you teach your students to learn or do you just tell them what to do? I ask because you seem to like to state your position as fact. Just a couple of weeks ago you said you dont forbid your students from using a metronome, also another laughable moment. Teachers should teach the student how
to learn right? Have I made my point? You want to attack another man for doing his job you need to be open for criticism as well and I bet reading that (which is all true) probably had blood rushing to your head.
Okay remember when I said keep that in the back of your mind for a sec? Back then when I didn't know any better I tried all kind of things, I had a lot of fails but the most important thing is how much fun I was having, said fun learned to a lifetime of glorious discoveries, learning and growing. I still do it to this day, you see I know at least myself that some great ways of learning are from one's mistakes and by mistake (the latter being simple discovery). I know when I am wrong, accept and admit my being wrong not only do I grow and learn but that lesson sticks with me even better as a result. Most of the time such lessons lead to better understanding and while learning things is great it doesn't come close to how important and awesome understanding some thing is, that opens up so many more doors.
An Amp, a sim, a pedal, a speaker etc are not instruments, in this case the guitar is the instrument and if you ask me it's far more beneficial to keep an open mind if one desires growth through learning. Sometimes I am messing with something I would never use, or perhaps through something that just doesn't get the tones I like. Does that stop me, instead of trying to get my amp to suit my playing I find another great way of learning is to try and suit my playing to the tones I am getting at the time...go into the unknown if you will or places I have never or rarely go. I find that expands my skills and understanding quite well.
So I wont go bash a sim based on whether or not I like how it sounds, "it's not for me" suffices well enough and almost 100% of the time it's not the amp, not the guitar, not the sim, not the strings...it's me and that's fine. Like with Revalver, it's me...I wont do business with them. Sure it's a great sim but at this stage in the game I can cover all the bases Revalver covers with what I currently own (and I'm not done yet
). Isn't that what it is all about?