KVR Audio

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:15 am

http://www.ppvmedien.de/Recording/Sonde ... 15776.html

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:21 am

Didn't find a comparison chart for LE, but here's one for WL8 to WL8 Elements.

Though you can expect that LE has even less features.

http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/article/5 ... chart.html

What ticks me off as Wavelab user however, the "special plugins" are part of Elements as well (Sonnox, the new comps, etc. I could care less about the Voxengo CourveEQ.

But for like 15 EUR (that's the price of the mag), you get a fully working audio editor with a sh*t-ton of usable tools. While I as regular user paid several hundred quids for merely a handful more crap plugins, a fully compatible CD burnter, 10 Insert Slots (compared to 4, which can be enhanced with racks or modular environments!) and a currently bugged EBU R-128 meter.

Sometimes I really question Steinberg's bundle policies. But then again, that's Steinberg.

b-pole · Post by **b-pole** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:17 pm

SAVE 49,00 EUR WHILE UPGRADING TO Wavelab Elements 8 (instead of 99,00) and then 100 EUR upgrading to Wavelab 8 !

bronxsound · Post by **bronxsound** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:11 pm

anyone knows if they do electronic delivery?

TheRealFreak · Post by **TheRealFreak** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:51 pm

Is it REALLY so limited as it was before for "wavelab le 7" in keys?

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl ... -schade%2F

ZINO · Post by **ZINO** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:04 pm

No more money to PG and Steinberg until more than 60-70% of the 3rd party plugins work ok with this stupid software. Oh... and they are the ones that created the standard.

Cubase is amazing but this is so f**ked up.

There is fail, there is epic fail, and then there is Wavelab.

filtafreq · Post by **filtafreq** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:34 pm

bronxsound wrote:anyone knows if they do electronic delivery?

yes they do

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:58 pm

ZINO wrote:No more money to PG and Steinberg until more than 60-70% of the 3rd party plugins work ok with this stupid software. Oh... and they are the ones that created the standard. Cubase is amazing but this is so f**ked up.

There is fail, there is epic fail, and then there is Wavelab.

I like Wavelab. Even the new version I got, Wavelab Elements 8. I'm used to working in it - so used to it, I could never really accustom myself to the freeware alternatives like Waveosaur and Audacity.

I may be entirely mistaken, but in the newest version, Steinberg seems to have omitted a key bit of functionality that was in earlier Wavelabs and in Wavelab Essential. Under the Preferences you could set a project tempo and it would snap to that grid. I got a metric ass ton of un-edited beat samples that need to have the dead air at the front revoved and the tail edited so that is exactly 4 beats at X BPM. That snap to BPM grid made it so easy.

The new Wavelab GUI is sure ugly, though. It's like someone with no taste's idea of what was groovy 10 years ago.

saregardu · Post by **saregardu** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:57 am

filtafreq wrote:
bronxsound wrote:anyone knows if they do electronic delivery?
yes they do

Hi
How? Please. I didn't found this on the site....
Thanks

TheRealFreak · Post by **TheRealFreak** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:49 pm

For Wavelab LE 7 I found this blog:

Original (German):
http://blog.oldmedia.de/2011/04/wavelab-le-7-schade/

Translated:
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl ... -schade%2F

For Wavelab LE 8:

The official information (by support request only) by Steinberg lists these MISSING features for Wavelab LE 8 (this MISSING list is not 100% complete):

Code: Select all

Speaker Management System
iZotope MBIT+TM Master Dither
Wavelab SuperClips
EBU-compliant Loudness Metering and Processing
Wavelab Control
Spectrometer, Bit-Meter, Phasescope, Wavescope
Batch Processing Workspace
DDP Support
Unlimited audio file size (-> max 2GB file size for LE)
File comparator
Pan & Loudness normalizer
Auto Split
Signal & DTMF generator
Monitoring options incl. meter freeze
Extended menu structure
Audio Analysis and Error Correction Tools
Burning Engine and CD/DVD-audio support
Extended support of various audio file formats
Global Audio Analysis
Time Stretch & Pitch Correct
Meta Data support
Audio restoration functions
Single-window plug-in management
Panning tools and effect section
Auto Replay option
Spectroscope & Oscilloscope & Level Meter
New Steinberg Brickwall Limiter plug-in
New Steinberg Tube Compressor plug-in
Stereo Expander plug-in
Mono Delay plug-in
Distortion plug-in
VST Dynamics plug-in
Sonnox DeNoiser plug-in
Sonnox DeClicker plug-in
Sonnox DeBuzzer plug-in
Standard Dithering
Batch processing
Audio-CD creation

[Wrong assumption, limitation only exists for audio-montage] I wrote:I hope the Wavelab 7 LE limitation written in blog on top "The biggest restriction is in addition to the limit of two tracks that you can not select a track areas." is HOPEFULLY NOT present in Wavelab LE 8 anymore.

In case you purchased the mag with Wavelab LE 8 you may spend another 50 EUR to get Wavelab eLEments 8. That's at least still cheaper than a direct purchase. Just select "Upgrade from WaveLab LE 6/7/8" when putting Wavelab eLEments 8 to your cart/basket. This upgrade is always electronic delivery (esd).

[Wrong assumption, see following posting] I wrote:I suspect the required eLicenser (steinberg key) for Wavelab editions bigger than LE requires to be purchased extra (about extra 20 EUR).

Here is what you'll get: http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/wa ... ne_up.html

saregardu wrote:How (get electronic delivery)? Please. I didn't found this on the site....
Thanks

In the cart/basket
http://www.steinberg.net/en/shop/buy_pr ... nts-8.html
you may choose:
Box or download
[x] I'd like to download the product.
[_] I'd like a boxed product.

Have a nice day!

DrumAddict · Post by **DrumAddict** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:25 pm

TheRealFreak wrote: I suspect the required eLicenser (steinberg key) for Wavelab editions bigger than LE requires to be purchased extra (about extra 20 EUR).

Wavelab 8 LE and Wavelab 8 Elements requires the Software eLicenser , which means licenses got stored on your PC !

only the full Wavelab 8 requires an USB eLicenser which you call steinberg key

TheRealFreak · Post by **TheRealFreak** » Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:51 pm

DrumAddict wrote:
TheRealFreak wrote: I suspect the required eLicenser (steinberg key) for Wavelab editions bigger than LE requires to be purchased extra (about extra 20 EUR).
Wavelab 8 LE and Wavelab 8 Elements requires the Software eLicenser , which means licenses got stored on your PC !

only the full Wavelab 8 requires an USB eLicenser which you call steinberg key

Thanks for correcting me! I added notes to my original posting therefore.

So the benefit when upgrading from Wavelab LE 8 (magware) to Wavelab eLEments 8 is much better!

But you may transfer (one way!) your "Software eLicenser" data stored on your individual PC to a (extra purchase, about 20 EUR) USB-eLicenser (often called "Steinberg Key" in the shops) to use also Wavelab LE and eLEments on different PCs at different times:

Soft-eLicenser FAQ
Look for "Is it possible to transfer licenses from the Soft-eLicenser to a USB-eLicenser?" at the follwing site under "Soft-eLicenser FAQ":
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/kn ... e_new.html
https://www.steinberg.net/en/support/kn ... /2020.html

Wavelab 8 LE in Keys mag