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Why do producers still use hardware ?

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KVRAF
 
4758 posts since 10 Aug, 2004, from Colorado Springs
 

Postby rockstar_not; Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:45 am

justin3am wrote:It's tough to even capture in a recording.


^^^ Understatement of the year! ^^^

I played at one rehearsal with a jazz trio (Organ, drums, bass and a vocalist - okay, quartet) at a guy's house in Trollhättan, Sweden, where their normal bass player couldn't make it that night. I am friends/co-worker with the drummer so I played keyboard bass.

It was at the organ player's house. He had a full midi-fied C3 with Leslie cabinet in his living room upstairs, but the rehearsal space was in the basement. Even though we had it mic'ed and what not, what was going on upstairs sounded way better than what we piped in downstairs.

-Scott
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KVRAF
 
2222 posts since 2 Jul, 2007, from Oxycontin Acres, Georgia, USA

Postby SODDI; Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:47 am

justin3am wrote:
SODDI wrote:The Buchla modules are pretty much all digital today except for the CV stuff, aren't they? It's simply modular and digital.

The 291e/292 (filters and Lowpass gates) are analog as are some other signal processors, the 261e's wave shaping section is analog. Most of the control system is digital with DA converters to spit out voltages, otherwise the preset system and control distribution wouldn't be possible. Maybe the 266e (Source of Uncertainty) and 281e (Quad Function Generator aka envelopes/LFOs) may be analog as well.

The lines are really blurred in 200e Buchla systems because you are dealing with audio signal and control voltage, but you also get complex internal routing and presets.


And when you're in that modular zone, you aren't slaved to using only the onboard Buchla oscillators and filters, you can use the CVs to control any number of true analog modules, like a Moog oscillator and filter bank, then bring them back into the Buchla for further processing.

It's that open modularity for both audio and CV signals that is so desirable, as much as the individual sound generators' and processors' characteristic sounds.

It's been 30 years since I've been able to put my hands on a modular system.
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KVRian
 
634 posts since 6 Jul, 2008, from Lost in the wilderness
 

Postby Axis1~SL61; Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:56 pm

rockstar_not wrote:
I've been doing home recording, songwriting, mixing, etc. since the 80's, first using a TEAC reel-to-reel believe it or not. The first computer generated music I did was with a BASIC program invoking peek and poke statements on an IBM PC in about 1982 or 1983 if I recall correctly. Does that mean I've been 'Producing' since the 80's?

Yes, you're a "produca" now :D
P.S.:
I'm a "produça" too !
LOL! -- "produca" -- can't take that word out of my mind since someone said here that "produca" annoyed him even more than "producer".
uuuhuu... I'm a "produca"! :wheee: :ud:
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KVRAF
 
18431 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:02 am

I love how those taking their first steps in music call themselves producers - it's just so weird sounding to hear people call themselves something that you once had to learn through blood, sweat and tears before you got the respect and the chance to apply your talents as one.

I'm sure it won't be long now before those who have completed a first aid course will be calling themselves 'doctors'.

:hihi:
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Postby dea-man; Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:59 am

For accuracy, perhaps different terms should be used.

The location in which you do your recording can go a long way to help someone understand your position in the music industry.

Example: I am a Bedroom Producer.

The method and platform of working could be another helpfully, descriptive way.

Example: I make sounds/music using my home laptop/desktop computer.

I think the gist is evident.

After all, it much easier than saying the reality.

Example: I gather ideas for a number of unfinished projects, select songs and/or musicians in my head, play everything myself (some things not so well), coach and cheerlead any artist and musicians I coerce into my bedroom studio, control the recording sessions via mouse, and supervising the entire process through mixing and mastering with dubiously obtained plug ins I know little about, responsible for the budget ($0), schedules (whenever), and negotiations with my parents who own the house. I also arranger, compose, play and songwrite, I am the mixing engineer, and a mastering engineer (both of which I have read about on Wiki AND KVR).

Thank you.
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KVRAF
 
18431 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:09 am

dea-man wrote:For accuracy, perhaps different terms should be used.

The location in which you do your recording can go a long way to help someone understand your position in the music industry.

Example: I am a Bedroom Producer.

That actually makes a lot more sense as it qualifies what someone means.
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addled muppet weed
 
33877 posts since 25 Jan, 2003, from through the looking glass
 

Postby vurt; Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:38 am

my name is vurt. ive never eaten a twiglet.
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KVRAF
 
2370 posts since 9 Jan, 2003, from Saint Louis MO
  

Postby foosnark; Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:54 am

I don't know, there's something kind of porny about "bedroom producer." "I'm a bedroom producer, wanna come in my studio?" :hihi:
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KVRAF
 
3711 posts since 5 May, 2005, from Stockholm, Sweden

Postby lotus2035; Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:59 am

robojam wrote:I love how those taking their first steps in music call themselves producers - it's just so weird sounding to hear people call themselves something that you once had to learn through blood, sweat and tears before you got the respect and the chance to apply your talents as one.

I'm sure it won't be long now before those who have completed a first aid course will be calling themselves 'doctors'.

:hihi:


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KVRAF
 
3711 posts since 5 May, 2005, from Stockholm, Sweden

Postby lotus2035; Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:03 am

dea-man wrote:The location in which you do your recording can go a long way to help someone understand your position in the music industry.

I am a garden shed producer.
I am a living room producer.
I am a kitchen cum dining area producer.
I am a cupboard under the stairs producer.
I am a renovated attic producer.
I am a dank creepy basement producer.
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KVRAF
 
18431 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:05 am

lotus2035 wrote:
robojam wrote:I love how those taking their first steps in music call themselves producers - it's just so weird sounding to hear people call themselves something that you once had to learn through blood, sweat and tears before you got the respect and the chance to apply your talents as one.

I'm sure it won't be long now before those who have completed a first aid course will be calling themselves 'doctors'.

:hihi:


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:hihi:

Well musician hasn't changed in meaning as far as I know for hundreds of years, but I think producer has...
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KVRAF
 
2222 posts since 2 Jul, 2007, from Oxycontin Acres, Georgia, USA

Postby SODDI; Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:50 am

robojam wrote:I'm sure it won't be long now before those who have completed a first aid course will be calling themselves 'doctors'.

:hihi:


It's already happened. A lot of Protestant seminary graduates, particularly Evangelicals, in the U.S. are awarded a "doctor's" degree, even though the closest they'll get to being a real doctor is when they're surgically excising money from some gullible fool's wallet.

That's DOCTOR Pat Robertson to you.
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Postby vurt; Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:51 am

your mother!
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KVRAF
 
18431 posts since 26 Jul, 2005, from Inside Schroedinger's Cat...or am I...

Postby robojam; Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:57 am

SODDI wrote:That's DOCTOR Pat Robertson to you.

Yep, he went to that racist, homophobic college in SC (I think) to get his doctorate for doing shit all.
KVRian
 
1064 posts since 15 Oct, 2008

Postby Aroused by JarJar; Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:02 am

lotus2035 wrote:I am a kitchen cum dining area producer.


Thanks for the heads up on that one.
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