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KVRian
 
1039 posts since 1 Jan, 2004, from England

Postby danbroad; Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:36 am Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

A little late to the party but it's good to be home. After a few years of Logic and Studio one, on a whim I felt the urge to retry Tracktion. Within a half hour I'd laid down a great track, and was thoroughly reacquainted with per-clip fades and per-clip filters, still the best bounce in place rendering and so on. So, upgraded my licence to v4 for the pittance it cost and spent a few hours reorganising my apple loops into a semblance of order in the browser.

Feels good to be using T4 again, although there are still a few unexplained crashes (no warning, Tracktion just disappears on the mac without a shutdown dialog or explanation in the log file). Also, there are a few Mackie remnants in there, such as rack filters which reference plugins that no longer bundle with t4.

Now, T5 is around the corner, I heard January. I'm sure the build is pretty much done, but there are a few suggestions I'd like to make.

1. Tidy up the rack filter presets - no more redundant racks which try to load a mackie plugin.
2. A few selected rack filter presets for the common tasks such as sidechaining and multi-output/multitimbral plugs. Perhaps it would help if those rack presets auto dry/wet levelled for the send and return tracks - maybe by being able to select a 'send instance' and a 'return instance' in the rack dialog (so, rather than a single 'drag this to insert' filter there was a choice of two)?
3. The ability to organise out filters as we would like. For example, not just by type or manufacturer, but being able to add our own metadata column in the plugin settings and organise by that? I'd like to organise synths by sonic type (subtractive, physical, FM, additive etc), effects by type (FSU, modulation, compression, mastering etc).
4. Non-destructive audio editing functions
5. Copy/paste automation settings, perhaps also an 'automation presets' folder where we can save certain envelopes (akin to a permanent clipboard, perhaps it's just me but there are certain standard automation events that I use regularly and it would save having to redraw them each time).
6. Now this is a little pipedream of mine, but I think it would be great if T5 could take a small gif or icon of the plugin interface and draw that on the track filters. That way, it would be cool to 'see the chain' of plugins and effects as icons rather than the green arrow shapes with a name in them. A little bit like the icons of logic, or the finder mini-previews seen above the dock on OSX, tailored to each individual plug. Once the filter is dragged to the track and the plugin GUI loads, a miniature icon of the same appears where the filter exists on the track timeline. Anyway, I can dream.....
7. A true mac fullscreen option.

Anyway, looking forward to T5 and thanks for rescuing it from Mackie hell!
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KVRist
 
172 posts since 17 Sep, 2004, from Good Old Germany

Postby mfkne; Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:49 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

:clap: +1

additional suggestions:
- automatic slicing of audio via transient detection
- improved Tracktion Filters (better reverb etc.)
- melodyne-like pitch audio editing OR ARA Integration

That´s all folks. :D
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KVRist
 
285 posts since 23 Jun, 2007

Postby dupont; Fri Jan 10, 2014 10:53 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

midi ghost clips
KVRian
 
1039 posts since 1 Jan, 2004, from England

Postby danbroad; Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:52 pm Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

And MIDI input filters while we're at it. I used to use Niall's MIDI transpose all the time, but it's PPC only. A MIDI arpeggiator would be nice, but for now I'd settle for a proper MIDI transpose on the channel strip.
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KVRian
 
556 posts since 26 Mar, 2004, from Surrey, UK
 

Postby mcnelson; Sat Jan 11, 2014 12:21 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

danbroad wrote:And MIDI input filters while we're at it. I used to use Niall's MIDI transpose all the time, but it's PPC only. A MIDI arpeggiator would be nice, but for now I'd settle for a proper MIDI transpose on the channel strip.


Quite a few people were asking for a "record what you hear" option, so the idea of "pre-input" filters was mooted. I suspect T5 will feature something along these lines.
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KVRian
 
1383 posts since 15 Aug, 2003, from Indianapolis

Postby bk; Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:27 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

danbroad wrote: I'd settle for a proper MIDI transpose on the channel strip.

The Tracktion Pitch Filter already does this. When fed audio, it pitch shifts, when fed midi, it transposes. Just drop it in front of the synth you're using.
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KVRist
 
82 posts since 16 Mar, 2004

Postby zentatonic; Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:32 pm Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

+1 for request #3.

Would also love to be able to drag fx into parent folder tracks.
KVRAF
 
18817 posts since 4 Sep, 2001, from Melbourne Australia

Postby TheoM; Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:00 pm Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

I'd still love live recording visual preview, and fully implemented pdc. :)
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KVRian
 
839 posts since 14 Apr, 2004, from Maryland, USA
  

Postby DaveL60; Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:22 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

bk wrote:
danbroad wrote: I'd settle for a proper MIDI transpose on the channel strip.

The Tracktion Pitch Filter already does this. When fed audio, it pitch shifts, when fed midi, it transposes. Just drop it in front of the synth you're using.
I would never have thought to try that, so I'm really grateful for this info.

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KVRian
 
1039 posts since 1 Jan, 2004, from England

Postby danbroad; Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:05 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

...likewise. Not an obvious place to look, and my last Tracktion days I used the midi plugins. Nice tip!

The more I use it, the more I think the whole side chaining filter rack needs some attention. Insert this, return that, dry this, wet that... there must be a simpler way.
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KVRian
 
1039 posts since 1 Jan, 2004, from England

Postby danbroad; Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:17 pm Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

Anyway, any news on T5 pre-NAMM... just, you know, to whet the whistle of the T4 forumites? I've licences going back to V1 if it helps swing a secret or two!
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KVRian
 
1383 posts since 15 Aug, 2003, from Indianapolis

Postby bk; Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:03 pm Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

DaveL60 wrote:
bk wrote:
danbroad wrote: I'd settle for a proper MIDI transpose on the channel strip.

The Tracktion Pitch Filter already does this. When fed audio, it pitch shifts, when fed midi, it transposes. Just drop it in front of the synth you're using.
I would never have thought to try that, so I'm really grateful for this info.

No problem. It is an unusual solution, but once you know it, it makes perfect sense.
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KVRAF
 
4758 posts since 10 Aug, 2004, from Colorado Springs
 

Postby rockstar_not; Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:33 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

bk wrote:
danbroad wrote: I'd settle for a proper MIDI transpose on the channel strip.

The Tracktion Pitch Filter already does this. When fed audio, it pitch shifts, when fed midi, it transposes. Just drop it in front of the synth you're using.


This one has been around a long time, since V1 perhaps? Maybe V2. Almost 10 years. It is surprising how many folks don't know this one.
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KVRian
 
1383 posts since 15 Aug, 2003, from Indianapolis

Postby bk; Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:17 am Re: Sometimes you gotta go there to come back...

rockstar_not wrote:This one has been around a long time, since V1 perhaps? Maybe V2. Almost 10 years. It is surprising how many folks don't know this one.

Yep. It's not what most people expect, though. You'd normally expect separate tools for those two functions. It's one of Tracktion's quirks.
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