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Obxd synthesizer

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2DaT
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277 posts since 21 Jun, 2013

Postby 2DaT; Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:31 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

Breeze wrote:Here's a few other observations I have from fiddling with the Obxd:

- I first noticed that the main volume taper seems a bit too linear: most of the change is in the first 1/4 turn. When I found some OB-Xa patch sheets and starting entering values from it, I noticed that knobs on the obxd end up being in their lower range, sometimes within mm's of completely OFF to make sense (esp with the modulation) while the patch sheets show the controls higher up. I think there might be something off because there seems to be generalized cramping of useful values towards the beginning of the controls; of course without a real OBX in front of you it's difficult to confirm a proper behavior but IMHO I think some revue of this is necessary.

- I find the Noise source could use +3 db peak more to match the osc outputs. Peak levels match but there's quite a difference in RMS value. But maybe the current level is within the OBX spec?

- There was some discussion last year about including the additional -Xa LFO waveforms as well as an LFO re-trigger option... both of these would help make it possible to use the LFO as an additional envelope (esp Saw). I hope these aren't flushed; there's a nice spot open on the GUI for that LFO re-trigger button... ;)

- I asked this yesterday but it didn't get answered: is the LFO in the OBX series always monophonic (1 LFO for all voices)? It would be very powerful to have a separate LFO for every voice, triggered separately for every note.

- I know this is settled, but after working a while the fact that OSC 2 detunes only in a positive direction is a bit annoying when in x-mod mode and having to change OSCs Fq an octave to test... and back... the Alt control would make it possible to have the same range and resolution available over half a turn anyways... just saying...

As usual, take or leave my comments as you wish. Thanks!

Noise source knob covers ob-x && obxa buttons.
Obxa doesnt has additional lfo waveforms and lfo retrigger. Actually those feature were introduced in ob8.

OBX series never had polyphnic lfos.

Xmod is quite rarely used feature and ob-x never had a knob. Also carrier and modulator signals are reversed in obxd(to open nice chunk of sounds when both sync and xmod are used). So you will have to do fine tunings with pitch knobs anyway ( compared to ob-x).

Filter key cv with transpose behaviour is not a bug.
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layzer
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Postby layzer; Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:49 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

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button animation....look ok? :?:
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - YAMAHA TX802]
SW [DIM PRO - RAPTURE - Z3TA+ - CRONOX3 - KLC - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK XPSP3 PC/MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
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EvilDragon
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9886 posts since 6 Jan, 2009, from Croatia

Postby EvilDragon; Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:02 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

Off state looks more pressed-in than on state.

IIRC on a real Oberheim the buttons didn't stay pressed in in on state - they just toggled the LED on and off. So basically off and on state are the same, except the LED turns on. There's an intermediate pressed state which you could have to tie-in the two basic off/on states.
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aciddose
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Postby aciddose; Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:09 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

Called a momentary switch.
Limeflavour
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559 posts since 26 Jun, 2005, from Sweden

Postby Limeflavour; Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:22 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

If you only have 2 frames leave the button in the "not pushed" state and only alter the led.
If you can have more frames try to make it behave like the real thing as ED describes.

I also don't see the shadow moving in your 2 frames.
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layzer
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1610 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Postby layzer; Sun Jan 12, 2014 3:09 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

EvilDragon wrote:Yep, that.


thanks for info about type of button. will do a momentary :wink:
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - YAMAHA TX802]
SW [DIM PRO - RAPTURE - Z3TA+ - CRONOX3 - KLC - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK XPSP3 PC/MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
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layzer
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Postby layzer; Sun Jan 12, 2014 4:56 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

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oh i give up, its just gonna have to be a button where the led only changes :shrug:
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - YAMAHA TX802]
SW [DIM PRO - RAPTURE - Z3TA+ - CRONOX3 - KLC - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK XPSP3 PC/MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]
Spitfire31
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1854 posts since 18 May, 2003, from Sweden

Postby Spitfire31; Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:33 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

What's the problem? To my eyes, the above looks like a perfectly good approximation of a working momentary button.

A minor observation: the LED is switched off on button UP but lit on button DOWN. Perhaps intentional?

Nice work.

/Joachim
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Sendy
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4389 posts since 20 Jul, 2010

Postby Sendy; Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:38 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

Spitfire31 wrote:What's the problem? To my eyes, the above looks like a perfectly good approximation of a working momentary button.

A minor observation: the LED is switched off on button UP but lit on button DOWN. Perhaps intentional?

Nice work.

/Joachim


I'm guessing that's to save having two intermediate button graphics.
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PAK
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480 posts since 19 Feb, 2003

Postby PAK; Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:22 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

Couple I tried the other night.. The last one is actually based on a real OB-X button (needs colour correction :) ) The other 3 are different versions of a rendered source.
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2DaT
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277 posts since 21 Jun, 2013

Postby 2DaT; Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:48 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

PAK wrote:Couple I tried the other night.. The last one is actually based on a real OB-X button (needs colour correction :) ) The other 3 are different versions of a rendered source.
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I prefer layzer's gui much more. It looks like obie and layout is perfect.

But idea with a bit noisy background is good though.
PAK
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480 posts since 19 Feb, 2003

Postby PAK; Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:13 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

2DaT wrote:I prefer layzer's gui much more. It looks like obie and layout is perfect.
But idea with a bit noisy background is good though.
I didn't continue further with the above since the real time sink is placing everything correctly and building a layout :)

However, it'd be nice if you'd consider the ability to skin the plugin. Though, as long as you don't do anything too strange, I suppose someone could replace the resources anyway.. But I'll see how much I use it and how much the present UI bothers me first :)

Edit - BTW If you did end up offering skinning then I'm happy to point anyone to the resources used if they liked the idea and wanted to clean it up and actually finish it.. :)
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chk071
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2885 posts since 10 Apr, 2010, from Germany

Postby chk071; Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:33 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

I like it actually. The knobs look better, and the colouring is more "round" and offers more contrast. Anyway, layzer's GUI looks good also, so, happy with whatever comes along. :)
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fluffy_little_something
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3371 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Postby fluffy_little_something; Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:09 am Re: Obxd synthesizer

layzer wrote:Image

button animation....look ok? :?:


No animation, please. The LED's say it all, while those changing buttons only cause confusion. I hate the switches on the Minimoog emulations for instance. I never really know in which position they are.
Plus, since the top surface of the Oberheim buttons seems parallel to the GUI surface, there is no logical reason for the button surface to behave as if there were more shadow all of a sudden. That only makes sense with hinged switches like on the Minimoog.
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