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I'm contemplating a new DAW

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Which DAW should I buy

Poll ended at Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:00 pm

Mixcraft
6
6%
Reaper
48
48%
Studio One 2 (artist)
23
23%
Fish
24
24%
 
Total votes : 101
KVRist
 
39 posts since 19 Oct, 2013, from Romania

Postby 24MTS; Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:54 pm Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

Did you have a look at Podium?

There is a ton of good things about it, the best of them being you get a free version that is really a full DAW with just one restriction - multicore processing disabled.

It might fit you very well, I know I tried Studio One before, as well as Reaper and Cubase, Tracktion demoo too, but this one has the best workflow for me.

You can check: http://www.zynewave.com

It is well worth having a look.
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KVRAF
 
5550 posts since 24 Jun, 2008, from Europe
    

Postby mutools; Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:31 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

Checkout MuLab: Low price, great features!!
And includes top sounding synths, samplers, ... EQ, echos, reverbs, distortions, filters, ...

All details on http://www.mutools.com/mulab-product.html
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KVRAF
 
8200 posts since 9 Jan, 2004, from leroyaumeuni

Postby spaceman; Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:56 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

If you're a Windows user, you might want to consider Podium as well.

And it's very much worth checking out MuLab, and possibly the very soon to be released Tracktion 5 as well.
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KVRAF
 
3599 posts since 19 Jan, 2008

Postby tapper mike; Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:53 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

I went to the zynewave website and checked out the video.
Absolutely atrocious sound quality.

No sparkling highs, no punchy mids, No bass whatsoever. It was like they started with 5.6 k sample rates and then squashed every ounce of life out of it. I've heard better synth quality out of a casio vl-one
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There was not even the hint of dynamic range on the synth or the sampled instruments.
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KVRAF
 
1526 posts since 15 Nov, 2006, from Hell

Postby Burillo; Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:08 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

Studio One Artist won't allow you to use 3rd party plugins, so i don't even know why it exists (Reason at least can be ReWired, and now got Re's).

As another long time (since early 2.x days) REAPER user, i can tell you that it's certainly not for everyone. Think of it as Linux of the DAWs world - it's not always pretty, easy to use, featureful and attractive, but it's easily the most powerful DAW out there. Mind you, it may be exactly the kind of power you seek to avoid having, and that's perfectly OK - some people don't like to have too many choices and customization. So demo is the way to go. Can't say anything meaningful about other DAWs - tried a few of them but they never really clicked with me.

For zynewave, there was talk on their forum about how the author doesn't see PC as a viable platform any more and would like to concentrate his efforts on an iOS port. Don't know if that's still the case.
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KVRAF
 
3599 posts since 19 Jan, 2008

Postby tapper mike; Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:00 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

Yeah, Hibidy has made the same assertion about Studio One Artist.

Regarding included Virtual Instruments.... Not on the top of my priorites. I've got plenty of vsti's. Of course if the DAW doesn't support them well.... that's a no brainer.

Regarding VST instrument effects. No don't have a lot of them...have some...not a primary concern in regards to individual instruments.

Regarding mastering effects. More important to me as well as how well it handles mixdowns. Samplitudes - Multi-Max even the outdated one that I have is first rate. izotope ozone is impressive with a high price. I'm not going to go for Mixcraft Pro unless I can test the version of ozone that's included. I don't want to walk into a product so limited that it's useless. A limited version of anything is usually a far cry from the full version.
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1023 posts since 14 Aug, 2012, from Australia
 

Postby werp; Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:12 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

When does Fish come out?
I haven't seen it in the net but I have all the others and nothing is as good as Fish will be.
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33595 posts since 25 Jan, 2003, from through the looking glass
 

Postby vurt; Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:12 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

bitwig.
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KVRAF
 
4694 posts since 25 Apr, 2002, from the bottom of the barrel
 

Postby spacedad; Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:51 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

i still swear by eXT1+2
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KVRAF
 
8365 posts since 12 Mar, 2012, from South Bavaria - near the alps... :-)

Postby Tricky-Loops; Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:18 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

tapper mike wrote:No fl, mu labs a Real Daw for a real musician/engineer
:shock: :-o

MUX is for professionals, and MuLab contains great synths & effects to make top notch music! :)

(says a REAPER user)
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KVRian
 
855 posts since 16 Feb, 2010

Postby gamecat666; Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:16 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

StudioOne 2.6 producer - in marketplace for $80
KVRist
 
65 posts since 8 May, 2010

Postby RockinLily; Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:44 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

tapper mike wrote:My frustration with my outdated version of Samplitute has no end. Abelton live doesn't work with my workflow. (and I only have the lite version)

I'm tired and or frustrated enough with all my older daw's not to look back. I'm on a budget.

tapper mike, I was in the same situation as you. I used Samplitude 10 for some years and though the workflow wasn't bad at all for me, I wasn't prepared to pay their pricey upgrade cost to Pro X (£255 !) when I went 64 bit :o

So I started looking for an alternative. I tried a few demos and actually bought Sonar X2 at a reasonable price. I soon gave up with that as I found that it was a real grind to work with :roll:

I ended up getting Presonus Studio 1 Pro for less than the cost of the Samp upgrade. I love it. The workflow is ridiculously simple, it just lends itself to making music. It does most of the stuff Samplitude does, but with nicer workflow, is rock solid and very stable :love:

Try the free version or the demo. I would seriously consider the Producer version at least, so that you can use third party VST plugins. The stock S1 plugins are not shabby either. Look out for deals on S1 Producer and they still may do a cross-grade from other DAWs. They did earlier this year.

S1 just works for me. Magix have lost me for good.
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KVRAF
 
3949 posts since 6 Sep, 2006, from Elk Grove, CA

Postby cryophonik; Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:51 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

werp wrote:When does Fish come out?
I haven't seen it in the net but I have all the others and nothing is as good as Fish will be.


It's still in baita.
KVRist
 
272 posts since 24 Nov, 2006

Postby m0j0byrd; Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:24 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

tapper mike wrote:I went to the zynewave website and checked out the video.
Absolutely atrocious sound quality.

No sparkling highs, no punchy mids, No bass whatsoever. It was like they started with 5.6 k sample rates and then squashed every ounce of life out of it. I've heard better synth quality out of a casio vl-one
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There was not even the hint of dynamic range on the synth or the sampled instruments.


Sorry to say, but that is like judging an actuallly excellent book by a photocopy of a crappy cover. :ud:

Podium Free is certainly worth the download, probably being one of the most capable free DAWs
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KVRAF
 
7071 posts since 26 Jun, 2006, from San Francisco Bay Area

Postby zerocrossing; Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:00 am Re: I'm contemplating a new DAW

tapper mike wrote:My frustration with my outdated version of Samplitute has no end.


It's hard to give a good answer to your question without asking why you're frustrated with Samplitude and why you just don't update it to the latest. I'm not plugging Samplitude, in fact I've never used it, but I know the investment in time and money to learn a DAW is considerable and whatever you end up going for is not just going to cost you money, but time in learning it.
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