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by Doug1978; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:13 pm Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your music?
Sorry for the abrupt couple of questions in the title (space restrictions stopped me from giving a slightly less jarring version!)
And I know that there are many DJs and also music producers here who release tracks to be played out in clubs (of varying genres).
I'm interested to hear from you good people at KVR, either if you make tunes for the dancefloor or not, to see what opinions you have about the connection between going nightclubbing and music production.
How often do you (or did you used to) go clubbing?
What sort of music do you dance to or listen to in nightclubs?
And to what extent do you think night clubs (as opposed to other places) still represent a fresh, healthy market and target for dance music creation?
I'm 35 years old, from the UK and my clubbing heyday (house, techno and happy hardcore) was back in the 90s.
I now occasionally go to a tidy underground techno club in Sendai (where, for name-dropping purposes and by means of illustration, I was lucky to witness Derrick May Dj-ing last summer).
But even though I've read a few well-received dance music manuals (eg the House Production book by Sample Magic), and I can probably arrange a fairly good dance track if pushed... tbh, my heart's not really into making dance music and I don't visit enough clubs now to convincingly know about all the new genres and musical directions that are being created.
(I'm also getting old and prefer to make melodic dub reggae...).
But I know that many of you professional and also hobby producers and DJs enjoy making tracks for the dancefloor.
And you'd certainly be able to give a good perspective about this:
How difficult is it to create dance tunes to suit current tastes, or to create tunes that push the boundaries and directions of club music, if you don't go dancing in nightclubs regularly?
by Tricky-Loops; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:33 pm Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
I've always tried to make funny, strange, yet dance-able music which doesn't fit into any genre... Music where people can laugh about because our world is serious enough...
I'm seriously ( )thinking about going more mainstream but I don't want to make boring EDM tracks! (So if there's the name "Tricky Loops", you can always expect something crazy...)
So my few cents:
If you want to make mainstream club music, it surely helps to work as DJ regularly in a club. On the other hand, there were people who weren't great clubbers (for example Calvin Harris) but made great dance music, nevertheless. Calvin Harris once said he rather works alone in his studio than going into clubs every week. (Now he HAS TO go because of the gigs...)
I'm a similar kind of person. I prefer working in silence in my small home studio instead of going to the club and party every night. I don't have anything against going to a club on the weekend but I HATE most over-30 parties (because they always play the same crap from the 70ies and 80ies).
by Hink; Fri Jan 24, 2014 7:02 pm Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
The Moon Sleeps in the Middle of the Day
by DJ Warmonger; Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:37 pm Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
It certainly changed my taste a bit, since in Poland tech sound dominates, varying from fat acid basslines and psy-tech to senseless bang-bang-fart sound. Still, it's good to know what people enjoy and what works well in the mix.
Spending months composing epic, instrumental track makes no sense if you can never play it in a club, since people give up in a middle of break. Trying to find a balance between sophisticated and banging, groovy sounds.
Also, it's nice to see how different tracks sound in a club, both due to room acoustics and extreme volume levels. Bass is obliterating, details vanish, clean sounds become diffused and painful to listen to. hat's why most of club tracks are heaviliy detuned. Need to find a good balance again.
Tricky-Loops wrote:(...)someone like Armin van Buuren who claims to make a track in half an hour and all his songs sound somewhat boring(...)
by RunBeerRun; Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:27 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
-his name is Joe
- his name is Steve
by thecontrolcentre; Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:37 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
by waltercruz; Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:44 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
As I'm not a DJ, but like to try things, I try to learn and understand how a DJ can keep the audience interested in a DJ set. Things like that.
My soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/waltercruz
by Zombie Queen; Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:46 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
by vurt; Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:47 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
while i enjoyed collaborating with mick on some more dancey numbers its not something i can do alone, i lack rhythm and attention span or so it seems. still occasionally enjoy gigs by some of those acts.
but nowadays im the weird old hippy that everyone avoids in an actual club
im not even a hippy
do not!feed the vampyr.
click link to hear the sounds of vurt coming into your ears
by Unfocused; Sat Jan 25, 2014 7:50 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
I do not condemn the worshipers--if that's their thing, more power to them. Enjoy! However,while I admit some skill is required to be a *cutting edge* "DJ" (or is it Producer-with-a-big-P now? I don't even know), too many of these bozos do *not* have the requisite talent to say that they are anything more than a button pusher. Of course, that's just my opinion. I know it's "wrong" to some people.
To answer your question in a roundabout way, I'd say most new musical ideas that I hear, live or through some broadcast/web media, affects my music. I try to imitate what I like until I assimilate it. I believe this is a good thing for anyone, so I hope your clubbing experience does affect your music--by helping you explore new directions, or abandon old ones because they've become cliche.
The progression to be hoped for (by a composer/musician anyway): imitate-->assimilate-->innovate-->repeat. I'm not anywhere near "innovate" yet.
If music is more of a "business proposition" for you, trying to play to the market is going to require the appropriate market research, i.e. clubbing.
Oh, and when I'm out I'll listen to any live music played by actual human beings: from dance to jazz to bluegrass to metal.
by Sendy; Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:01 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
by cocoazenith; Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:49 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi
I was also producing this kind of music until recently and I can definetely say that going out
helps you stay in tune with what this music kind should sound like.
In my opinion club culture and music is directly linked to eating stuff that makes you want to dance.
I remember coming from the club at 8 in the morning and producing, I got some awesome results.
Also the effect that a certain substance has on your brain actually lasts for more than a few hours.
I can swear that my music skills somehow got upgraded with every thing i ingested.
As for the state of the clubbing industry nowadays, I can say i'm dissapointed. It has certainly
become a multi-million dollar thing and tunes are now out like baked peas cans out of a cheap
by cryophonik; Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:04 am Re: Do you often go clubbing? How does this affect your musi