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Bitwig price, release date announced

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hibidy
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Postby hibidy; Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:38 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

SODDI wrote:Let's see how everyone feels on April 26th.


haha!
Ogopogo
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Postby Ogopogo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:04 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

You have to buy Live suite to get sampler, but "simpler" comes with standard live. Sampler is simpler with extra features, one of which is lfos. Bitwig's sampler comes with 3 lfos and does multisamples. Simpler does multisamples too though.

Edit. Oh you said "multiout" I dunno about that. In what way do you mean multiout, like loading different libraries like kontakt?

There is also the drum machine in bitwig just like lives drum racks. It's basically the same setup.
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Ogopogo
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Postby Ogopogo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:12 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

For anybody curious about bitwig studio, you can go to the bitwig all in one thread, sort by poster, and go through all of Thomas Helzle's posts. 99% percent of the actual info in that thread is from him. He answered pretty much every question that we could come up with and provided screen shots as well. So you can avoid the cats and just get the good stuff. There are shots of the sampler sampler loading screen and the step mod.

As for a step sequencer it does have this "step mod" device which is like a stepped lfo that you can route to any parameter of any device you want. It's got a fader each for each step and a configurable amount of steps.

That may not be what you were thinking of; if not I dunno what you want because I would always just use the midi editor for imputing patterns.
kev2525
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Postby kev2525; Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:01 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

firepile wrote:
kev2525 wrote:
kennyda wrote:The step sequencer is another thing that i'd like to see. Currently the only DAW i know with a decent'ish step sequencer is Sonar.

Are you sure Bitwig includes a step sequencer?


From the press release yesterday...

Over 50 included devices, including conventional Instruments (Polysynth, FM-4, Organ,
Sampler and analog-style Drum Modules) and FX (Delays, Equalizers, Compressors), as well as Container devices (to build parallel instrument or effect chains), Note FX, and Modulator devices (additional controllers like LFOs and step sequencers for modulating any other device).
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Ogopogo
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Postby Ogopogo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:23 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

^yeah, that sounds like step mod that they are talking about. Here's a shot that thomas posted in the other thread:

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You put a device into it's nested effects box at the bottom right there, and then you can control any parameter of the nested device.
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Suloo
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Postby Suloo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:21 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

maybe bitwig should team up with bluecat audio :D
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Guenon
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Postby Guenon; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:14 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

So, let me get this straight... There will be no support for multiple outputs of VST plugins in Bitwig 1.0? Meaning, one can't output multiple stereo output signals into the Bitwig mixer from one Kontakt instance, for example? At least reading posts from a while ago seems to confirm this. Is this still the case, or has the feature been added recently?

If it indeed isn't supported at the moment, does anyone (of the testers around here?) know the status of multiout VST routing in the upcoming 1.x updates? Is it, like, definitely planned and upcoming, or is it a "maybe at some point" thing?

This alone will be enough to put the whole Bitwig thing on hold for me, dang :? ... Can't justify getting it if this is the case, as my main incentive for jumping to Bitwig would be "a Live-like environment but with more robust editing and workflow", but alas, the projects that I find painful in Live (because of lacking editing features) are exactly the ones with heavy use of multiout instruments. I've been using Studio One for about a year in those cases, but sometimes I miss the creative potential of Live's routing/racks/etc.

Kind of defeats the purpose, for me, if multiout stuff can't be used at all.
Ogopogo
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Postby Ogopogo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:18 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

From the other bitwig thread:
dom@bitwig wrote:
Redukt wrote:Hi Dom, nice hearing from you again.

Good news about MIDI routing making progress - what about multiple audio outs of VSTs, anything planned for 1.0?

Nope, not for the initial release... but to me this is one of the most important things that are missing in the 1.0, so I doubt we will not implement it before 2.0.

Cheers,
Dom
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Guenon
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Postby Guenon; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:20 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

Ok, thanks! Good to know it's at the top of the list.
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Regnas
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Postby Regnas; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:23 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

I would like to know if there is something like this "step sequencer" inside Bitwig?

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FL Studio Step-sequencer.
Ogopogo
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Postby Ogopogo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:30 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

Not a tester here as you may know, but I'm 99% sure there isn't. Although if you are talking about the just the sequencing aspect I never understood why the midi editor isn't sufficient. If you are talking about having your sample loading slots and your vol/pan right there next to the sequence I agree that would be cool if they could figure it out somehow, but I don't see how it fits thier paradigm really. I really don't like FL for a lot of stuff but coming up with drum bits is about as easy as I ever experienced, since you don't have to switch between windows, so picking your samples, mixing, and making your sequence aren't separate things.
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werp
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Postby werp; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:32 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

lfm wrote:This DAW will change everything - :D

Great! I have trouble changing my socks.
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Suloo
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Postby Suloo; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:39 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

ok, here we go, repeating the whole *All In* thread from page 60 :hihi:

follow Ogopogos advice guys and check Thomas his posts in the big Bitwig thread..
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hibidy
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Postby hibidy; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:45 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

This just in!

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there will never be an is-all end of all other daw's DAW!

:D
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Postby dsan@mail.com; Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:53 pm Re: Bitwig price, release date announced

werp wrote:
lfm wrote:This DAW will change everything - :D

Great! I have trouble changing my socks.


Werp - you still trying to put that right sock on your left foot? :dog:

How many times we have to show you?

:hihi:

Happy Musiking!
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