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Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

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KVRAF
 
6230 posts since 6 Sep, 2008
 

Postby Mushy Mushy; Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:20 pm Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

Thanks guys. Time for bed now. Will digest this all tomorrow.
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KVRAF
 
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Postby seismic1; Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:26 pm Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

If I were to use the cloud as a backup medium, I would make sure I have a second copy in a location that I have physical access to.
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Postby werp; Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:33 pm Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

Admits to not knowing what the hell it is really.
Is it a bit like torrents in reverse?
If so, what if a drive holding a vital bit of info is turned off?
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Postby werp; Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:47 pm Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

Just read the wiki article on it. I'll stick with the little black box I can see.
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KVRist
 
249 posts since 25 Jan, 2009, from UK

Postby stonestreet; Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:11 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

Mushy Mushy wrote:Thanks guys. Time for bed now. Will digest this all tomorrow.


I was driving to work yesterday and I thought of you......even though I do not know you from Adam.

The car in front of me had the number plate MU55 HHY.

Re: Cloud storage, the paranoid types following on from wikileaks and Snowden whistle blower antics are probably thinking of staying clear of the cloud. (Human) Memories tend to be short lived however.
You might find your pieces of work over the net but slowed right down and backwards where the Agencies were trying to find out the intent of what you are up to...... :borg:

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KVRist
 
141 posts since 27 Dec, 2007, from Germany

Postby Chapelle; Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:29 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

If you want to use the cloud only as a backup solution and don't have to access the data immediately when you need it, Amazon Glacier would be a cheap solution ($0,01 per GB per month).

http://aws.amazon.com/glacier/
http://lifehacker.com/how-to-use-amazon-glacier-as-a-dirt-cheap-backup-solut-1460814873
KVRAF
 
1726 posts since 20 May, 2010, from between a star and the sea

Postby havran; Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:40 pm Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

A few sticks and some rotting leaves ought to do, maybe also the vagaries of memory.
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Postby Mushy Mushy; Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:05 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

robojam wrote:That's why I would rather go for one of the big companies that is unlikely to go out of business or be more likely to the the buyer in an acquisition (or at least to retain the brand name and product lines if they are acquired)

Yes true. Valid point. Google became my top preference for this reason, however they are quite expensive. I'd be looking at £15p/m. I will admit £15 is absolutely insignificant when we're talking about data backup, however...

Chapelle wrote:If you want to use the cloud only as a backup solution and don't have to access the data immediately when you need it, Amazon Glacier would be a cheap solution ($0,01 per GB per month).

This option is incredibly cheap and I certainly don't require data access immediately. It's solely as an off-site backup mechanism.

I will be investigating Amazon :tu:
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"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
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Postby Mushy Mushy; Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:09 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

werp wrote:Just read the wiki article on it. I'll stick with the little black box I can see.
True, it does make me a little nervous. I probably would continue to do a back-up onto the existing back-up HDD as well. The chances of me having a house fire and all of Google/Amazon's data warehouses burning simulaneously is rather remote.

Unless, of course, Zombie's arrive as per Vurt's comment. However, if that's the case I'd probably just hide down in the basement with Butter's until it's all over.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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Postby Mushy Mushy; Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:14 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

stonestreet wrote:I was driving to work yesterday and I thought of you......even though I do not know you from Adam.

:oops:

stonestreet wrote:The car in front of me had the number plate MU55 HHY.
Want. Mega want! :love:

stonestreet wrote:Re: Cloud storage, the paranoid types following on from wikileaks and Snowden whistle blower antics are probably thinking of staying clear of the cloud. (Human) Memories tend to be short lived however.
You might find your pieces of work over the net but slowed right down and backwards where the Agencies were trying to find out the intent of what you are up

Exactly. As if I'm worried. All they'd find on my cloud is GB upon GB of various little beeps and blurps. I'm hardly Daft Punk/Beatles/Nirvana etc.

In fact if anybody copied and/or sampled anything of mine I'd be over the moon.

Apart from this I only have movies/music that I can re-download again from iTunes and all my email is on Google. I'll only need this for my weird little noises.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
KVRAF
 
2251 posts since 13 Jun, 2004, from Back in the UK

Postby Goseba; Sat Feb 08, 2014 2:23 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

This thread has got me looking more at Cloud Storage.

Amazon Glacier seems to be looking best for long term storage of data.
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KVRist
 
488 posts since 20 Jun, 2012

Postby robotmonkey; Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:35 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

Cloud backup is not a reliable method of backup. It can serve as an additional layer of protection but in no way in the world could you rely on the cloud as a sole backup solution.

If going with cloud backup you still have to keep making local backups.

Cloud providers do suffer data loss themselves. Even the biggest ones like Amazon have had this happen.
Cloud providers could disappear overnight leaving you without your data. Or they could disappear on so short notice that you miss it or you have no time left to copy your data.
But the most common thing is the Cloud providers changing their terms and conditions overnight and unilaterally. This is very common so you could suddenly find out that your storage space has gone much smaller or more expensive. Some providers also delete data automatically if it exceeds their changed limit. Also cloud providers do not take absolutely any liability to keep your data safe and or backed up. They take absolutely no responsibility on anything.

Also take note that your ISP could any time limit your transfer speeds and quotas making backup and restore from cloud slow and painful. If you have capped data plan then you might not be able to restore your data if the plan goes over quote.

To cut it short, Cloud is not trustworthy nor reliable method of backup.

It could be useful for some additional protection though. Also take note that you should absolutely ENCRYPT all your data yourself if you put any of it in the cloud.
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Postby Goseba; Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:42 am Re: Talk me into (or out of) cloud storage for backup

Thanks for those comments. I am just looking at additional long term storage of all my music files, just as an extra back up.
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