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Postby whyterabbyt; Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:47 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

Compyfox wrote:What was that movie about that chick in a spaceship, and zombie like creatures?
Oh yeah... Pandorum. Man, that was worse than bad (IMO).


Its the only stab at doing a film based on the classic science fiction trope of a generation ship that Ive ever heard of. And its storyline wouldnt be atypical of some of the stuff out there of that ilk. It wasnt brilliant, but there's a lot of stuff that's a lot worse out there.
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Postby osiris; Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:54 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

I saw Pandorum in the theater and didn't like it. On subsequent re-watchings, I fond it grows on you and is totally believable (when you can figure out what's going on)
Still don't like Event Horizon. Good idea, poorly executed.
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Postby tapper mike; Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:57 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

T-CM11 wrote:
tapper mike wrote: A drug can't be made illegal till it is quantified. Then a law must be created to ban the particular drug.

Did they mention that in the show, or are you extrapolating from reality?



They mentioned when they were testing the drug that it was something new, something they'd never had on the books and that they would have an impossible time procecuting anyone for the drug based on it's completely new and unique markers that specifically seek out dna markers of people on a person by person basis. The drug maker would have to know the persons dna before the drug person could manufactuer a quanitity of drug for that person.

The also stated it was such a complex drug that it couldn't be produced in any chem lab. One would need to have access to a highly specialized machine to fabricate the drug. The machine was so specialized that only a few people were actually able to a) afford them b) were allowed to have them. Which is how they were able to trace the sale of the machine to the boy's father who had the drug making machine in his home.

The machine that made the drug was supposed to be restricted. Not available for private/personal use

The drug wasn't illegal because before the two girls wound up dead no one had ever seen traces of the drug before in any case ever. Even the girl who died earlier as a result of a drowning / suicide didn't have any traces of the drug in her system. Because the drug was designed to leave no traces when used in moderation.

You can't make something illegal that has never existed yet and hasn't been quantified. Cops in sci-fi world don't just get to say something new is illegal because they want to and the whole universe agrees with them. Yes kind of like real life, where laws have to be passed determining what is legal or illegal in a society.
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Postby Gamma-UT; Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:01 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

Compyfox wrote:And did someone mention "Skyline" yet?
What a pile of doggie doo doo, along with very bad acting and even more bad CGI.


The CGI was bad in Skyline? That was its one redeeming feature. It seemed to be a CGI showreel in search of a decent plot…and er, script,characters, idea.

It is also perhaps the finest example of the old story of boy-meet-girl, boy-loses-girl, boy's brain-loses-body, boy-brain-gets-new-badass-mech-body, boy-machine-rescues-girl and disappears into the sunset. It's like Shakespeare, innit?
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Postby osiris; Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:08 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

We do not know the drug laws in 2048.....
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Postby osiris; Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:09 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

But you can submit a request to Google Courts and have them emailed to your brainchip....
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Postby Compyfox; Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:42 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

Gamma-UT wrote:The CGI was bad in Skyline? That was its one redeeming feature. It seemed to be a CGI showreel in search of a decent plot…and er, script,characters, idea.


Sorry, but... glowing lines on all body parts? The CGI compared to actual human actors was shite, to say the least.

Recently, only one company IMO pulls off great CGI with human actors - and that is WETA. District 9 and Elysium was a prime example. Heck even the "Halo" trailers and to a certain extend "Forward unto Dawn" (actually: Legacy Effects).

I would have liked Pacific Rim so much more, if it wasn't so apparent that everything but a desk and some props were CGI. (too much lensflare). Same with the newer Star Wars Trilogy (everything bluescreen, no props!).


Gamma-UT wrote:It is also perhaps the finest example of the old story of boy-meet-girl, boy-loses-girl, boy's brain-loses-body, boy-brain-gets-new-badass-mech-body, boy-machine-rescues-girl and disappears into the sunset. It's like Shakespeare, innit?


More like early SciFi anime stuff. Almost completely with tentacle pr0n.



Oh... another SciFi that I found absolutely bad: Doomsday.
Too much "zombie crap" vs "Snake Plisken".


And "Ultra Violet" was just... disapointing. Especially after the "Fahrenheit 421" reimagination "Equilibrium", and seeing the "cinema cut" first rather than the Directors Cut (which doesn't help that much either).
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Postby tapper mike; Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:18 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

osiris wrote:We do not know the drug laws in 2048.....



So by that logic, we do not know then you think it is plausible that any substance or physical material not already cataloged automatically would be deamed as illegal.

Actually they did reference the fact that they could not charge the suspects with drug abuse / illegal drugs through the court because there was no record of the substances being illegal. The drug was not verified as the cause of death only that it was used near time of death.
Maybe the ritz cracker the person ate before they died caused the death.

They couldn't verify the drug caused the death only that the substance was in the two girls system at time of death. Which is why they tried to find out how the drug was make to track down who would have access to the machine.

It was found that the first girl who died from apparent drowning actually did die from the drowning not from the substance at all. It was suicide. Caused not by the effects of the drug on her body but by the awareness she gained by using the drugs. An awareness that she could have gained without the drugs.

The young man who used his fathers machine to create the drugs was never charged with distribution of illegal substances because the substance was not illegal. He was not charged with any of the murders of the three girls. The first was a suicide, of which he morned the loss. The two "chrome" girls did not kill the first. Though the mother felt they were responsible for the girls death.

The mother of the first girl was responsible for the deaths of the other two girls. Hacked the machine and poisoned them by altering the drugs
None of any of the others who had taken the drugs created died as a result even though it was distributed widely amongst the student body.


Please take the time to listen to the intro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XamdY76Iseg

Every episode runs along the same thing.
The year is 2048. Evolving technologies can no longer be regulated. Dangerous advancements forever alter the criminal landscape. Police are not prepared. Law enforcement combats this corruption with a new line of defense…

Every episode carries that fundemental theme through it. Whether it is the killer robot girl or something else.
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Postby osiris; Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:55 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

I wouldn't obsess over it. I'm already on episode 8. It's very uneven. Some are very good. The above discussed episode was soooooooooooo boring.
What was that crappy movie about people trapped in a little plane that gets chased by a UFO? Anyone see that? If you didn't - don't bother.
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Postby tapper mike; Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:33 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

I feel like I got sucked into the thor debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teRMsxMLVkY
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Postby vurt; Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:55 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

beta ray bill ftw!
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Postby aMUSEd; Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:57 am Re: Bad Sci-fi

vurt wrote:beta ray bill ftw!


Yeah they left him out of the Dark Elf thing - but then they pretty much dispensed with that storyline anyway - Malekith was boring! (nothing like in the comics - clearly they didn't want him to compete with Loki)
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Postby whyterabbyt; Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:22 pm Re: Bad Sci-fi

Compyfox wrote:the "Fahrenheit 421" reimagination "Equilibrium"


whit? :nutter:
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Postby vurt; Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:42 pm Re: Bad Sci-fi

aMUSEd wrote:
vurt wrote:beta ray bill ftw!


Yeah they left him out of the Dark Elf thing - but then they pretty much dispensed with that storyline anyway - Malekith was boring! (nothing like in the comics - clearly they didn't want him to compete with Loki)



yeah id have preferred a dark elf trilogy seperate from the other thor film, too much for one film alone.
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Postby vurt; Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:44 pm Re: Bad Sci-fi

whyterabbyt wrote:
Compyfox wrote:the "Fahrenheit 421" reimagination "Equilibrium"


whit? :nutter:



i was wondering that, ive not seen equilibrium but i hadnt heard any comparison to farenheit 421?
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