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by codec_spurt; Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:07 am
And I have Geist too which I made a free expander for.
I really like Battery. It is an excellent bit of kit with a really good library. It's not too difficult to use either.
But Geist has more strength in depth. There are so many things more you can do with it, not the least the fact it has a step sequencer and also a pattern sequencer on top, like a mini-DAW. The library is also really excellent, with the expansions making up any shortfall and being reasonably priced too (especially at the moment, I *think* they have a sale on don't they?).
One of my favourite things with Geist is the automatic loading and slicing of loops from the browser. Super fast and powerful. And a lot of fun. Geist is a generation ahead in development, but Battery is solid and gets the job done.
Geist definitely looks better though! Especially with those free skins that are flying around -
by el-bo (formerly ebow); Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:09 am
lotus2035 wrote:el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:Battery has a great library (although i speak to this while still on battery 3).
Quite a lot of the Battery 3 library has been removed for version 4. And the newer samples are quite weak in my opinion. Battery 3 kits can be used in Battery 4 but obviously that's only for people who upgrade and who still have access to the old library on disc. So for newer users they only get the newer weaker library. NI really messed up here but I guess they are trying to get people to switch to maschine.
I've owned Geist too and the Geist library is far better than the Battery 4 library IMO.
oh yeah, i forgot they had stripped away a lot of the stuff...effin' lame is what it is
good to know that i might find some gems in geist's library after all
by codec_spurt; Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:21 am
I considered upgrading to 4 but apart from a nicer GUI there wasn't that much more on offer.
Wasn't there a big thread on this?
by lotus2035; Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:44 am
by GFunk; Fri Nov 29, 2013 2:16 pm
The cubase upgrade is a good suggestion. Didn't know they'd updated Groove Agent but the upgrade cost from cubase 5 is too much at present.
by osiris; Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:16 pm
by V0RT3X; Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:55 pm
I imagine people are put off by the complex look of it! I was at first and I thought why bother with this when I have my DAW sequencer etc. Programming a beat in is easy but once you get into learning how to program and automate stuff via it's built in automation systems you will probably go "Whoa dude"
Once i actually sat down and played with it, it kind of clicked with me that the Geist workflow is pretty intuitive and quick once you learn it and the overall plugin uses not much CPU considering what you get.
The built in Bus Compressor is not the best now but it still holds up pretty good! I am pretty bad when it comes playing beats via the pads so i never got into recording performances in geist, instead i programmed my beats. The built in groove engine system is great too for "humanizing" your beats in case that's what you want and it sounds pretty good.
Battery is a different beast, and I used to own that in Komplete 8 and it's really awesome if you like using your DAW to program beats.
Looks like Battery definitely out does Geist in terms of factory sample content though.
Even when I owned komplete and had Battery and Kontakt i found it much more "fun" to load up geist and program my beats with that.
I also barely use factory kits and samples soley, so i found geists resampler a great way to build new sounds.
There are some other major problems with Geist, too many to list but can all be read on the FXpansion forum for Geist.
Until it can slice with accuracy, improve its interface and auditioning capabilities - it's worth about 100.00 USD. I paid in full for what it promised, but in practice I can see why they've dropped it down to about a hundred bucks on multiple occasions... this is its true value.
Disappointed. I'm really hoping they step it up like the rest of their arsenal in version 2 - if it makes it that far.