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A Prepared Piano with Sustain

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KVRist
 
494 posts since 30 Jul, 2013
 

Postby bigcat1969; Fri Feb 28, 2014 11:03 pm A Prepared Piano with Sustain

Kurt James Werner sampled a prepared piano on the CCRMA stage at Stanford and kindly shared them. I smushed them into a Kontakt 5 instrument. If some folks could take a listen and see if everything sounds more or less correct I would appreciate it.
Note this is a fairly lightly sampled piano with about 44 notes sampled in one velocity layer.
I've attempted to add a Sustain layer that should trigger when the sustain pedal is more than halfway down. I've never tried this before, so any feedback is appreciated.

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A Prepared Piano with Sustain Pedal

Kontakt 5
A Prepared Piano

No Interface Version
A Prepared Piano - No Interface

Samples from https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~kwerner/samples_such.html
Samples and Such by Kurt James Werner is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported License.
Picture from http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/vie ... o-keynotes

Bonus Find: You can get another free prepared piano at http://www.areyouprepared.dk/

Also if you want weird Crotbow and Glockbow . There are based on samples from the One Laptop per Child sample project.
Last edited by bigcat1969 on Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:08 pm, edited 4 times in total.
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KVRAF
 
9358 posts since 20 Oct, 2007

Postby jancivil; Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:46 am Re: A Prepared Piano

what a great way to demo areyouprepared. thanks for that! downloading.

I'll check yours and get back with you here tomorrow.
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Postby bluedad; Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:25 am Re: A Prepared Piano

thanks! sounds good to me.
I want to thank IK for the trip to Hawaii and for letting me play with ST3 since January.
KVRist
 
494 posts since 30 Jul, 2013
 

Postby bigcat1969; Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:44 am Re: A Prepared Piano

Isn't that areyouprepared clever? I'm not sure who the chap is who did it, but I admire his talent.

Thanks to both of you for taking a listen.

I'm going to change the interface picture, I thought using a really old picture would be sort of avant garde, but instead it was just ugly. Also I'll put up a no interface version for those that prefer small footprints in Kontakt.
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KVRAF
 
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Postby jancivil; Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:48 pm Re: A Prepared Piano

I like that skin
KVRAF
 
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Postby Musical Gym; Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:05 am Re: A Prepared Piano

Does the creative commons license allow the instruments/samples to be used for commercial ($$) music?
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KVRAF
 
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Postby Gamma-UT; Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:34 am Re: A Prepared Piano

Musical Gym wrote:Does the creative commons license allow the instruments/samples to be used for commercial ($$) music?


Yes, the licence says explicitly "even commercial", but the library has to be attributed and provide some sort of link to the licence (although simply naming it is more or less the same thing).

Link to licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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Postby deastman; Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:08 am Re: A Prepared Piano

Thank you for sharing this. Downloading now...
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/4" audio patchcord
KVRist
 
494 posts since 30 Jul, 2013
 

Postby bigcat1969; Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:07 am Re: A Prepared Piano

You should credit Kurt James Werner for the samples, you do not need to mention me or the Kontakt instrument. After all using the instrument is really just a simpler way of the using the samples.

Thanks to folks for trying it out.
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KVRAF
 
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Postby Musical Gym; Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:55 pm Re: A Prepared Piano

Gamma-UT wrote:
Musical Gym wrote:Does the creative commons license allow the instruments/samples to be used for commercial ($$) music?


Yes, the licence says explicitly "even commercial", but the library has to be attributed and provide some sort of link to the licence (although simply naming it is more or less the same thing).

Link to licence: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Thanks for letting me know.
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Postby jancivil; Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:15 pm Re: A Prepared Piano

I haven't found any problems on any key. All the knobs seem to do what they oughta.
KVRist
 
494 posts since 30 Jul, 2013
 

Postby bigcat1969; Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:10 pm Re: A Prepared Piano with Sustain

Thanks for giving it a test. In messing about I've attempted to add a sustain layer based on some further samples. I've not tried tying layers directly to sustain, so hopefully it works. I don't actually have a sustain pedal so am unable to test it.
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KVRist
 
241 posts since 29 May, 2012

Postby hueynym; Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:19 am Re: A Prepared Piano with Sustain

If you record a midi track with it and adjust (or add) the CC#64 to either above or below your threshold, you should be able to test it yourself (I don't have a pedal connected to this system either) but I edit the midi files all the time.

Hope this helps...
KVRist
 
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Postby bigcat1969; Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:15 pm Re: A Prepared Piano with Sustain

Thanks I forgot about that! Also thanks jancivil for mentioning prepared pianos on another thread an getting me running down this interesting rabbit trail. Now back to saxophones.
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