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7.5.0 is no maintenance update. 7.5.10 is. So is v7.0.7...

I don't know where that is hard to understand?
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are you saying that 7.5 is unstable. or that 7.5 is better then plain 7. or plain 7 is better then 7.5. all you asked me is well, you didn't ask anything just 'stated' "i haven't tried new update?" you used about 5 words which is not much to go on. i cant read your mind. so again, what are you asking? you believe you were very clear in your question, i disagree. that is, a communication failure independent on whose right or whose wrong. . don't even bother as i don't care.

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If you don't care, then why waste your time in here, especially if you're happy with S1?

Yet you fail to answer one simple question:
Did you try the latest maintenance update?

You stated that you used C7.0 - not C7.5.
I didn't say anything about which of the two is more stable - because stability lies within the eye of the beholder. I merely stated that half of the stuff you posted and considered as "definite solution" is no solution to the bigger problem that is the Cubase 7 engine(!). And that applies to both C7 and C7.5


But since you don't care - why do I even answer?
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I managed over the course of months to make Cubase 7.05 mainly stable. For now. I'll probably hit the wall again soon. I still have symptoms of fundamental issues, mainly CPU and ASIO-related.

I did not install 7.06 because of reported graphics instabilities and I have not yet installed 7.07, released last week, because the fixes reported by Steinberg for the maintenance update do not seem to address some of the fundamental problems I have reported. In addition, I was holding off on 7.07 hoping to hear other users' experiences with it. I suspecting that either: a.) 7.07 is completely successful and everyone is too busy making music with it to report; or b.) everyone is like me, too disheartened to bother installing it.

So right now I'm keeping the semi-stable installation of 7.05, flawed as it is. Better the devil I know than the devil I don't.

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Yes, Cubase 7, the worst thing to happen to this world since Hitler.
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OK...is 7.5 the worst or is 7 the worst?

:?
Barry
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Recently installed 7.5 and now 7.5.1... ASIO and VST performance is almost unusable... I have an i7 (3770) based PC with 16GB ram running a firewire Yamaha N12 dedicated mixer.... and since Steinberg are now owned by Yamaha and the product development is supposed to be "hand in hand", it simply isn't good enough... the performance of my system took a real nose dive after the 7.5 upgrade... I have performed all the optimization routines and it still sucks... I have had to increase my buffer size to 512 on a project with two VSTis one send VST and 10 audio tracks..... that really is crud.....
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Did you contact Steinberg about tis yet?
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BasariStudios wrote:Yes, Cubase 7, the worst thing to happen to this world since Hitler.
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Hello,
iancarrot wrote:Recently installed 7.5 and now 7.5.1... ASIO and VST performance is almost unusable... I have an i7 (3770) based PC with 16GB ram running a firewire Yamaha N12 dedicated mixer.... and since Steinberg are now owned by Yamaha and the product development is supposed to be "hand in hand", it simply isn't good enough... the performance of my system took a real nose dive after the 7.5 upgrade... I have performed all the optimization routines and it still sucks... I have had to increase my buffer size to 512 on a project with two VSTis one send VST and 10 audio tracks..... that really is crud.....
On what OS are you, do you have the latest drivers for the N12 installed as well?
Do you have any other components in your DAW beside the N12?
E.g. MIDI keyboards, controllers, which VSTis are you using?

Best regards,
GN
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All drivers up to date... Emailed Steinberg no response as yet... Midi keyboard... Using padshop and one of the other steinberg synths.... Dedicated DAW machine bought it to run C7 when I upgraded from 5.5 last year.. My old quad core wouldn't run it at all... Was running not too bad before 7.5.10 upgrade now runs like a bag a spanners
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trimph1 wrote:OK...is 7.5 the worst or is 7 the worst?

:?
7.5 is rock solid.

7.0, not so much.

What's disappointing is that you had to pay to get to 7.5, which is the solid version. If I was into conspiracies, I would surmise that they did this on purpose.
But I have a bad habit of giving everyone the benefit of the doubt.

Cheers
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iancarrot wrote:All drivers up to date... Emailed Steinberg no response as yet... Midi keyboard... Using padshop and one of the other steinberg synths.... Dedicated DAW machine bought it to run C7 when I upgraded from 5.5 last year.. My old quad core wouldn't run it at all... Was running not too bad before 7.5.10 upgrade now runs like a bag a spanners
I'd do a clean uninstall/reinstall of Cubase and your audio interface drivers. That's typically the recommended course of action whenever someone sees a dramatic loss in performance like you have.

BTW, this is true of any DAW. Stuff sometimes just gets messed up in the update process, and you have to start from scratch. I see these kinds of posts in every DAW forum, and half the time a complete reinstall does the trick. Hopefully, yours doesn't require doing the OS, too.

This is why every DAW user should use a backup imaging program, and run an image before every major update. Failing that, System Restore (which is crap) or a full reinstall is your only recourse.

Good luck.

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I sure hope the manual for 7.5 is more complete than the manual for 7.0.

Call me old fashioned, but I believe that functions like the "ASIO Latency Compensation" button should be indexed and detailed in the manual. It's not. ALL settings should be indexed in the manual. It is a 900+ page document and you can't just stumble around hoping that you run across a reference to setting you're looking for an explanation of.

It's interesting that the phrase "ASIO latency compensation" does not appear in the Steinberg "Knowledge Base" either. But it is a toggle in Cubase.

Steinberg should be embarassed at the state of that manual.

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I'm afraid, that's not the case. Same with the "Chord Track" btw.
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