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Waldorf Streichfett

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Postby ndkent; Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:10 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Clearly some advantages to the consumer. Mostly it's MIDI/USB - something not not super available on a vintage unless you do a more involved MIDI to key contacts mod, it's super compact and not as likely to fail like something 30-40 years old. Surely won't be expensive.

In Waldorf's favor, it could very well be all digital, any info? Might be an analog filter or ensemble (Berhinger proves you can still make an analog one cheap) but unless marketing research tells them it's a selling point I doubt it. I don't see any filter controls, most likely meaning the sounds is all digital.

If one looks at history, polysynths at first did not exist then they were pricey. There was a place for these to do pads, no question. I'd say Korg's Polysix and Roland's Juno 6/60 effectively killed the market with a real poly and sweet chorus to boot (saving the cost of 6 more DCOs/VCOs) and providing a range of polyphonic individually filtered and enveloped rather than paraphonic quasi synth sounds

Somewhat ironic, after 35 years hardware analog monosynths are abundant, analog polys are not other than DSI part hybrids, so yeah, there is probably a market for something that does old school pads for cheap, though I guess while it has at least as many controls as a string synth, that's not saying much. You can adjust it to an extent but when it comes down to things, it's like a preset pad, a solo layered and you either like the sounds in there or not.
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Postby Ingonator; Fri Mar 07, 2014 4:36 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

This is indeed really cool. Looking forward to it. Waldorf has added details at their Facebook page (in german):

Waldorf Streichfett – streichzart bei hohem Fettgehalt

Erinnern Sie sich noch an „Bilitis“ Oder an „Shine on you crazy diamond“ von Pink Floyd An die Hits „Saturday Night Fever“ und „How deep is your love“ von den Bee Gees Dann erinnern Sie sich auch an die ewig weiten, unendlich breiten, wabbeligen, mariuhanösen Streicherflächen, die den Klang der Musik der späten 1970er und frühen 1980er Jahre auf so wunderbare Weise geprägt haben. Die String-Machines waren die heimlichen Giganten der A-, B- und C-Movies, der Sexy-Schmonzetten. Sie waren der Inbegriff überschwappender Romantik und sehnsüchtigen Fernwehs.
Nur leider sind sie alle ausgestorben – bis jetzt. Mit seiner dualen Sound-Engine und dem essentiellen „Ensemble“- Effekt erweckt Streichfett längst verschollene Klangwelten zu neuem Leben. Und das in einer unglaublichen Authentizität, denn alle Bestandteile der Originalinstrumente werden minutiös nachgebildet.

Die Solo-Sektion bietet – genau wie die Originale – Bass, E-Piano oder Clavi Sounds zum Layern, die, genau wie in den Originalen, rein gar nichts mit deren Sound-Namen zu tun haben. Doch es sind herrlich schillernde, leicht perkussive Klänge, die sich fantastisch mit der String-Sektion ergänzen. Obgleich das Bedienfeld übersichtlich erscheint, verbirgt sich im Bauch von Streichfett eine überaus komplexe Synthese-Architektur. Sie prädestiniert Streichfett wie kein zweites zeitgenössisches Instrument zur Erzeugung unvergleichlich weiter, voller, weicher, schimmernder Klänge.

Insgesamt 12 Patches können abgespeichert und in der Memory-Sektion ausgewählt werden und natürlich bietet Streichfett auch USB- und MIDI-Anschlüsse.

Features
· Voll polyfone Strings-Sektion mit Violine-, Viola-, Cello-, Brass-, Organ- und Choir-Presets
· 2. Layer mit Violine- / Viola-Voicing
· Ensemble-Effekt für String-Sektion
· Typische String-Hüllkurve mit Crescendo und Release
· Monofone Solo-Sektion mit Bass-, E-Piano-, Clavi-, Synth- und Pluto-Sounds
· Dediziertes Tremolo für Solo-Sektion
· Umschaltbare Hüllkurve mit variabler Sustain-Einstellung und Attack- / Decay-(Release-) Funktion
· Effekt-Sektion mit Animate, Phaser oder Reverb
· Layer oder Split für Solo-Sektion
· Dedizierter Balance-Regler für schnelle Einstellungen der Layer- und Split-Sounds
· Voll programmierbar mit 3 x 4 Speicherplätzen

Controller
· Volume-Regler
· Strings-Sektion mit Preset-Auswahl, Crescendo- und Release-Regler
· 3fach Oktaven-Schalter (Base / Both / 8va)
· 3fach-Schalter für 2. Voice
· Ensemble-Effekt-Taste
· Solo-Sektion mit Sound-Auswahl-Regler
· Tremolo-Regler
· 3fach-Split-Schalter (Split-Punkt low / mid / layer)
· 2fach Sustain-Schalter
· Balance-Regler mit Null-Position-Rasterung
· Effekt-Sektion mit dreifach Schalter (Chorus / Phase / Animate)
· Effekt-Depth-Regler
· 3fach-Schalter für Speicher-Bank (A, B, C)
· 4 Taster für Programm-Nummer (1 bis 4)
· Komplette Steuerung über MIDI / USB

Anschlüsse
· Stereo-Audio-Ausgang (Links / Stereo, Rechts / Mono)
· Kopfhörer-Ausgang
· USB-MIDI
· MIDI-In /-Out

Preis und Lieferdatum
Waldorf Streichfett ist ab dem späten Frühjahr 2014 für eine unverbindliche Preisempfehlung von 279 EUR erhältlich.


link: https://www.facebook.com/WaldorfMusic

With a price of 279 € it looks like a no-brainer.

Not sure how far this is analog yet. Maybe the filter like in Rocket.

Will have a look (and listen...) next week at the Musikmesse.

BTW "Streichfett" is one of the coolest synth names so far. :)


UPDATE:
additional links:

http://www.gearjunkies.com/news_info.php?news_id=9174

http://en.audiofanzine.com/digital-synt ... 96142.html


ingo
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Postby vurt; Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:33 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Ingonator wrote:
Not sure how far this is analog yet. Maybe the filter like in Rocket.



which filter?
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Postby Ingonator; Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:36 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

vurt wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
Not sure how far this is analog yet. Maybe the filter like in Rocket.



which filter?


Since when String Ensembles did not include a filter? Even if there are no filter controls this should be still necessary.


Ingo
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Postby vurt; Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:37 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

barryfell wrote:...."

Image



since this pic doesnt show one i just thought id ask.
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Postby Ingonator; Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:39 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Edit.
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Postby vurt; Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:39 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Ingonator wrote:
vurt wrote:
Ingonator wrote:
Not sure how far this is analog yet. Maybe the filter like in Rocket.



which filter?


Since when String Ensembles did not include a filter? Even if there are no filter controls this should be still necessary.


Ingo



so if it has no controls how does one use it?
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Postby Kriminal; Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:51 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Expensive for such a limited unit.
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Postby Ingonator; Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:02 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

vurt wrote:so if it has no controls how does one use it?


Just had a look at the solina circuits. Those seem to contain multiple filters to create it's different sounds, even if there are no controls at the interface. There were no samples so somehow those sounds had to be created.

While a BBD Chorus is necessary for that "typical" ensembel sound the basic sound seems to be based on subtractive synthesis.


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Postby EvilDragon; Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:04 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Yes - but I don't think Streichfett utilizes analog filters for its fully polyphonic string register section.
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Postby vurt; Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:09 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

also no mention of an analogue filter in the facebook page ingo posted, which would be a selling point? no?
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Postby Ingonator; Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:09 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

EvilDragon wrote:Yes - but I don't think Streichfett utilizes analog filters for its fully polyphonic string register section.


I got no clue about if and where Steichfett has real analog parts. I am just guessing like others here...
Anyway as the other Waldorf units (Pulse 2, Rocket, 2-Pole) have real analog parts too i guess that it should be here too. Maybe an anlaog Chorus.


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Postby EvilDragon; Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:14 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

Would be nice... But it'd be best if Ensemble effect was analog... that's the key for string machine sounds.
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Postby Ingonator; Fri Mar 07, 2014 6:19 am Re: Waldorf Streichfett

EvilDragon wrote:Would be nice... But it'd be best if Ensemble effect was analog... that's the key for string machine sounds.


I agree to that. Analog Phaser would be cool too... :)


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