Skrillex - RAGGA BOMB Vox Effect
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2014
So I posted this on the image-line forum, but things are a bit slow over there... KVR, ON THE OTHER HAND--
"So here's the original sample from Ragga Bomb:
https://soundcloud.com/dant-10/skrillraggating/s-44CLx
And here's my attempt to recreate it using Harmor and some random ragga vocals I found:
https://soundcloud.com/dant-10/raggating/s-LrHKH
(obviously not as loud :3)
Ridiculous how something can sound so simple yet be so hard to recreate. All along I was thinking he vocoded the thing... anyways, improvements are welcome, if anyone would like the flp lmk. I think that the effect has something to do with manipulation of formants, and I think Skrillex might've used melodyne and some sort of distortion to get it. Not too sure though, anyone have any ideas?"
Copied and pasted from my post on the image-line forums. I'd really like to see someone else's take on this/any explanation.
"So here's the original sample from Ragga Bomb:
https://soundcloud.com/dant-10/skrillraggating/s-44CLx
And here's my attempt to recreate it using Harmor and some random ragga vocals I found:
https://soundcloud.com/dant-10/raggating/s-LrHKH
(obviously not as loud :3)
Ridiculous how something can sound so simple yet be so hard to recreate. All along I was thinking he vocoded the thing... anyways, improvements are welcome, if anyone would like the flp lmk. I think that the effect has something to do with manipulation of formants, and I think Skrillex might've used melodyne and some sort of distortion to get it. Not too sure though, anyone have any ideas?"
Copied and pasted from my post on the image-line forums. I'd really like to see someone else's take on this/any explanation.
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- KVRian
- 986 posts since 8 Mar, 2009
Bit crushing.............................
Thats quite clearly been formant shifted and pitched down.i think the formants are actually higher than the pitch so it´s likely to be a Melodyne job and then probably processed after with multiband compression or something akin to bring out the that broken sounding quality in the top end.it may involve a bitcrusher but that is not responsible for the actual timbre of the voice,take
There´s no vocoder involved there as vocoding always without fail produces those tubby resonances which if you try to get rid of them sound extremely odd (gating for example)
Melodyne would be your best bet or nutone in FL which i honestly think is pretty crap in comparison and i´m an FL user
TIMT
Thats quite clearly been formant shifted and pitched down.i think the formants are actually higher than the pitch so it´s likely to be a Melodyne job and then probably processed after with multiband compression or something akin to bring out the that broken sounding quality in the top end.it may involve a bitcrusher but that is not responsible for the actual timbre of the voice,take
There´s no vocoder involved there as vocoding always without fail produces those tubby resonances which if you try to get rid of them sound extremely odd (gating for example)
Melodyne would be your best bet or nutone in FL which i honestly think is pretty crap in comparison and i´m an FL user
TIMT
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2014
Yeah I used harmor to move the frequencies to C or whatever using the scale knob, then played with the formants. Skrillex does use melodyne, so that's probably it. I have seen some close imitations using ring mod though. Thanks.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2014
You're probably right, but in case you're curious
http://dubstepforum.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3&t=284103
http://dubstepforum.com/forum/viewtopic ... 3&t=284103
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- KVRian
- 986 posts since 8 Mar, 2009
I didn´t think one of them was close to be honest.i own melodyne so i´ll have a play when i have some spare time on my hands.pretty sure it is just what i said though.pitching and formant shifting to bring out the character rather than it be in relation to the pitch
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- KVRAF
- 2628 posts since 30 Mar, 2007 from In and Out Burger
I like itTIMT wrote:nutone in FL which i honestly think is pretty crap in comparison and i´m an FL user
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- KVRer
- 25 posts since 4 May, 2009
hi @sleepymuse how did you make your bass sound thing ?
sounds proper !
sounds proper !
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- KVRer
- 25 posts since 4 May, 2009
hi @sleepymuse how did you make your bass sound thing ?
sounds proper !
sounds proper !
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 13 posts since 28 Mar, 2014
@julianLeker
the second one right?
I used Harmor in FL Studio. I got the vocal and resynhtesized it, make sure you have the "image/resynhtesis" setting under the ADV tab set to generic, works differently if you have it set to high precision for some reason. Back in the image tab set "scale" to the middle, which sort of funnels the harmonics of the entire waveform to C, makes the sound more monotone in a way. After that I remember messing with the formant mutation under the ENV tab, and then twiddling with the formant/mix knobs on the IMG tab. That plus distortion (I think I used softsat) should give you the sound. lmk if you want the flp
the second one right?
I used Harmor in FL Studio. I got the vocal and resynhtesized it, make sure you have the "image/resynhtesis" setting under the ADV tab set to generic, works differently if you have it set to high precision for some reason. Back in the image tab set "scale" to the middle, which sort of funnels the harmonics of the entire waveform to C, makes the sound more monotone in a way. After that I remember messing with the formant mutation under the ENV tab, and then twiddling with the formant/mix knobs on the IMG tab. That plus distortion (I think I used softsat) should give you the sound. lmk if you want the flp
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 28 Oct, 2014
I've recorded vocal with two frequency shifters for full Ragga Bomb song You can listen it here: splice.com / valfrenk/skrillex-ragga-twins-ragga-bomb-cover/B9661FE7-76D3-4957-ABD9-C34D359E812D/dna
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- KVRist
- 439 posts since 20 Jun, 2005
1º Download this:
http://www.g200kg.com/en/software/rovee.html
2º Play with the formant knob (make shure the mix knob is 100%)
3º Job's done!
Hope this helps!
http://www.g200kg.com/en/software/rovee.html
2º Play with the formant knob (make shure the mix knob is 100%)
3º Job's done!
Hope this helps!
- KVRAF
- 1758 posts since 15 Mar, 2013 from Germany
MMultiBandHarmonizer has different modes for shifting sounds, Harmonizer and Vocoder modes sound similar to this stuff. Also it has a sharpness control which gives you the bright highs with no further processing needed.
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- KVRer
- 1 posts since 11 Mar, 2016
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Here's The main vocals from the track https://www.mediafire.com/?71223z0f3136ppk (https://www.mediafire.com/?71223z0f3136ppk) It was simply pitched down vocals with a Wave shaper, a limiter, tiny bit of reverb and delay, OTT, Dimension Expander and iZotope Ozone, hope this helps!- KVRist
- 30 posts since 29 Feb, 2016
Just use a frequency shifter on it
I never even pitched it down
All I did was use a frequency shifter and a bit of distortion and eq to taste and this was the result
2:12
http://soundcloud.com/synkhron/pirate-h ... woy#t=2:12
I used full bucket's frequency shifter as for settings:
Lfo=sine
Frequency range=500
Now after that just keep adjusting the minimum, maximum or both frequency sliders until it sounds just right..the sweet spot is different for each vocal sample (obviously as everybody's voice is at different frequencies) as a tip tho i start with one far left and the ther far right then keep moving only one across until it sounds good. Keep in mind it only works on monotone vocals with relatively steady frequencies throughout as a singing vocal will require constant changes in min and maximum frequencies
I never even pitched it down
All I did was use a frequency shifter and a bit of distortion and eq to taste and this was the result
2:12
http://soundcloud.com/synkhron/pirate-h ... woy#t=2:12
I used full bucket's frequency shifter as for settings:
Lfo=sine
Frequency range=500
Now after that just keep adjusting the minimum, maximum or both frequency sliders until it sounds just right..the sweet spot is different for each vocal sample (obviously as everybody's voice is at different frequencies) as a tip tho i start with one far left and the ther far right then keep moving only one across until it sounds good. Keep in mind it only works on monotone vocals with relatively steady frequencies throughout as a singing vocal will require constant changes in min and maximum frequencies
check out ma channel or not....idk whatever floats your boat
http://soundcloud.com/synkhron
http://soundcloud.com/synkhron