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Spire Synthesizer

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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fluffy_little_something
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3692 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Postby fluffy_little_something; Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:28 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

How does it compare with Diva in terms of CPU when playing modest pads (i.e. not all that super duper zillion saw stuff) or 2-voice unison leads?

I like the concept, the fact that it includes everything to finish patches off, even compressor :) You don't have to make Spire-FX racks in your DAW that you can't take with you when switching to another DAW.
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MFXxx
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1975 posts since 27 Mar, 2010, from UK

Postby MFXxx; Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:29 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

frag wrote:Please add multi-thread support.

I can work with Spire even now on i7 (I used 15 instances in a track without any issues), but for those killer hypersaw pads, you need multi-threading...
I made a pad which literally buries Access Virus. And it runs on my CPU.
But to make it work with full 16-voice polyphony, it really demands multi-threading.

Thanks for the amazing machine!


+1000 would be totally inSPIREtional
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billcarroll
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1348 posts since 9 Dec, 2011, from falling

Postby billcarroll; Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:47 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

sound_dev wrote:
4damind wrote:Nice update!
Only a question... it seems you dropped the idea of a preset browser?


No, we are still planning to release preset browser, but it takes some time.


This is great news. Thanks for giving us the bank selector in the meantime :)
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fluffy_little_something
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3692 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Postby fluffy_little_something; Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:03 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

I am demoing Spire now, the sound as such is very good, but the mono modes seem to cause quite audible clicks, even with slow attack :?

PS: Seems it had to do with the wrong curve type for the filter envelope decay, changed that, now the clicks are gone :)

I love the EQ, simple yet very effective and easy to use thanks to the display :)

The user interface is a bit small, though, at least the labels are weak and hard to read...
frag
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23 posts since 4 Apr, 2014

Postby frag; Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:37 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

To re-post here from Reveal Sound forum. My list of requests.
Bold is ESSENTIAL.

Multi-thread support
Patch browser
Spire standalone
Spire FX
Audio input
Custom wave import
Type-in value for each parameter

Maybe:
SYNC/RESET ON KEY STROKE for Unison Oscs, to make tighter unison basses!
Somehow I cannot make tight Unison basses, ANA on/off does not help.
The sound is too much unstable for my taste...

If I have to buy Spire again to make all this happen - I will buy it again.
frag
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Postby frag; Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:38 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

I was doing a JP-8000 emulation last night...

It came very close to the original - an untrained ear would certainly be "fooled". However, it would be great to have a true emulation of JP-8000 unison, and filters, on Spire. Right now, the sound becomes too thick, it simply wouldn't fit in the mix as good as a the real JP-8000. (Not that it wouldn't fit at all, it would still sound very nice and interesting.)

Oh, and it would be great to have Minimoog and MS-20 filters emulated, too!
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Ingonator
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8133 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:47 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

frag wrote:I was doing a JP-8000 emulation last night...

It came very close to the original - an untrained ear would certainly be "fooled". However, it would be great to have a true emulation of JP-8000 unison, and filters, on Spire. Right now, the sound becomes too thick, it simply wouldn't fit in the mix as good as a the real JP-8000. (Not that it wouldn't fit at all, it would still sound very nice and interesting.)

Oh, and it would be great to have Minimoog and MS-20 filters emulated, too!


If you want proper a JP-8000 oscillator (including Feedback Osc) and also Minimoog and MS-20 filters you should maybe have a look at U-He Diva... :)


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sqigls
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1378 posts since 24 Dec, 2004, from Melbourne, Australia

Postby sqigls; Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:59 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

JP-8000 is dead dude.

Move FORWARD.
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fluffy_little_something
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Postby fluffy_little_something; Wed Apr 09, 2014 3:10 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

Spire does not try to emulate any specific synth if I am not mistaken.
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MFXxx
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1975 posts since 27 Mar, 2010, from UK

Postby MFXxx; Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:12 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

fluffy_little_something wrote:Spire does not try to emulate any specific synth if I am not mistaken.


Nope, checked the manual, no mention of any emulations whatsoever. No mention of 303 type sounds, Virus or anything.

Page 9/25 : http://www.reveal-sound.com/downloads/distrib/manual_eng.pdf

Still happy I purchased it, compliments my Virus and xox' nicely.
Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend air...
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fluffy_little_something
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3692 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Postby fluffy_little_something; Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:47 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

MFXxx wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Spire does not try to emulate any specific synth if I am not mistaken.


Nope, checked the manual, no mention of any emulations whatsoever. No mention of 303 type sounds, Virus or anything.

Page 9/25 : http://www.reveal-sound.com/downloads/distrib/manual_eng.pdf

Still happy I purchased it, compliments my Virus and xox' nicely.


"Acido type does not repeat at 100%, but good for simulating TB-303 sounds and not only."

Sounds like a rather vague, general emulation. I assume by repeat they mean emulate, right?
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zvenx
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4435 posts since 16 Feb, 2005, from Kingston, Jamaica

Postby zvenx; Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:31 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

I assume MFXxx was being sarcastic,
cause the manual also says the infecto filter was a cousin to the Virus.
rsp
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fluffy_little_something
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3692 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Postby fluffy_little_something; Wed Apr 09, 2014 6:35 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

zvenx wrote:I assume MFXxx was being sarcastic,
cause the manual also says the infecto filter was a cousin to the Virus.
rsp


I know it was sarcasm or irony, but not justified in my view because unlike TAL stuff Spire does not seem to try and nail any hardware synth. Plus, filters are just one aspect of emulating a synth, anyway, though an important one of course.
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Blue-eyed Blonde Ape
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Postby Blue-eyed Blonde Ape; Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:09 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

sqigls wrote:JP-8000 is dead dude.

Move FORWARD.

So dead, that one can hear it being mimicked in every other track either on beat port or radio or whatever, so dead, that I'm sick of that cheesy supersaw radio crap, utter POS, it would make a perfect mix compilation for peadophiles.
All that crap and peadphiles are the same to me, lol
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MFXxx
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1975 posts since 27 Mar, 2010, from UK

Postby MFXxx; Wed Apr 09, 2014 7:28 am Re: Spire Synthesizer

...lol ironically complimentary. No axe to grind, it's a great plugin/synth and is in no way promising any form of emulation...

it's all good...lots of love all round :)
Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burdend air...
...nothing special just my noodles :
https://soundcloud.com/mystafx
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