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As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

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The_Hidden_Goose
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Postby The_Hidden_Goose; Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:08 am Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

Never followed classical (or romantic or baroque or any other orchestral type period) in any academic sense, but I've always liked slow and epic string builds. Especially with cellos.

I love that in any genre. So thanks for that, history.

You can keep your opera though! :spit:
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Postby fmr; Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:36 am Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

The_Hidden_Goose wrote:Never followed classical (or romantic or baroque or any other orchestral type period) in any academic sense, but I've always liked slow and epic string builds. Especially with cellos.

I love that in any genre. So thanks for that, history.

You can keep your opera though! :spit:

If you like strings, listen to the Tschaikovsky Serenade for Strings, or to the Mahler Adagietto (iv movement of the 5th Symphony).

Opera is a learned taste :)
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Postby spaceman; Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:00 am Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

fmr wrote:Opera is a learned taste :)

Yes, I've learned to avoid it.
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Postby The_Hidden_Goose; Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:35 am Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

@ fmr - I'll give them a go if I find them - I've liked things by Tchaikovsky before :)

I'm sure there are opera tunes I might like (in fact I know there is - there's a piece in Madame Butterfly that I remember liking although I wouldn't know which one by name), but the typical overindulgent operatic singing is something that I just can't stick, and doubt that I will ever acquire that particular taste.

It's the musical equivalent of sprouts to me, I'm afraid!
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Postby Tricky-Loops; Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:41 am Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

I'd prefer musicals over opera at any time! :wink:
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Postby fmr; Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:49 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

The_Hidden_Goose wrote:@ fmr - I'll give them a go if I find them - I've liked things by Tchaikovsky before :)

I'm sure there are opera tunes I might like (in fact I know there is - there's a piece in Madame Butterfly that I remember liking although I wouldn't know which one by name)...

Serenade for Strings
Adagietto from Mahler 5th (conducted by Abbado)
The aria from Madame Butterfly was perhaps "Un bel di vedremo"
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Postby aMUSEd; Mon Apr 07, 2014 12:58 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

fmr wrote:The aria from Madame Butterfly was perhaps "Un bel di vedremo"


Love Puccini. My favourite arias of his are "Sola perduta abbandonata!" and "Visi d'arte".
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Postby fmr; Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:43 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

aMUSEd wrote:
fmr wrote:The aria from Madame Butterfly was perhaps "Un bel di vedremo"


Love Puccini. My favourite arias of his are "Sola perduta abbandonata!" and "Visi d'arte".

For me it's "Nessun dorma", undoubtedly (predictable, I admit, but Turandot is a magnificent story - too bad he left it incomplete).

But there are so many great arias from so many great operas... and duetti, choruses, scenes, intermezzos, preludes... Really guys, you owe to yourselves to give opera a chance. Actually, one of the great Mozart moments (as I said, I am not a Mozart fan) is "Die Zauberflote" - an opera.
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Postby aMUSEd; Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:34 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

Mozart's operas are fantastic - so witty and fun - I like his operas above the rest of his music
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Postby mysticvibes; Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:46 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

so only mature people like classical music and immature people can't like it?
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Postby aMUSEd; Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:50 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

I liked classical and jazz before I liked any other kind of music. The main reason I got into rock and then other types was through things like Prog, experimental electronic music and fusion because I realised they were attempting to treat music as a serious art form too rather than just pander to commercial markets.
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Postby jancivil; Mon Apr 07, 2014 2:55 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

vurt wrote:
jancivil wrote:
Tricky-Loops wrote:Is it true that in a concert hall people should behave like in a church? :P
What is that? It's hard to keep quiet and listen during the thing?

But which church? They get kind of excited in some of the churches here.


ive never been given wine and wafers at a concert either.
or sung all things bright and beautiful...
I'm sure I went through that 'eat of the body of Jesus' bit once, maybe more than once. I remember it as our singer had been taken into some 'charismatic religion' (*cough* [/CULT]) by his girlfriend. I thought 'this is f**ked up'. I wasn't instructed in any religion, we went through the motions but I don't remember too much that was heavy. I know I resented the pressure, 'you have to do this [ritual]' in that one situation. It seems like the first time. I was young.

I think reverence for beauty is not a suspect thing. I appreciate irreverence, I don't feel like I have to salute all of Mozart either, but there is church and there is Church. Around here they believe Jesus wants you to get happy and drop your burden for a minute.
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Postby jancivil; Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:00 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

aMUSEd wrote:I liked classical and jazz before I liked any other kind of music. The main reason I got into rock and then other types was through things like Prog, experimental electronic music and fusion because I realised they were attempting to treat music as a serious art form too rather than just pander to commercial markets.
I did too, but then there was The Monkees on TV. I was 9 or 10.
I didn't have this division off from my father, we liked a lot of the same things in the early 70's and he wasn't at all into telling me this more juvenile rock music was wrong. He took us to KMart and picked out the correct recording of the Batman theme, where the actual composer Neal Hefti was involved, so this was an opportunity to tell me about arrangers and some history.
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Postby jancivil; Mon Apr 07, 2014 3:08 pm Re: As I mature I'm appreciating classical music a lot more

I've been to two operas, that time at CCM with the big production of 'Magic Flute' and once in San Francisco to see Richard Strauss "Salome", which was also fantastic. There are some very hip harmonies in that thing. Pretty decadent 'fin de siecle' content in that.
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