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A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

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DuX
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3218 posts since 14 Mar, 2002, from Underworld

Postby DuX; Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:34 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

Wow! Thank you for the VAZ modular updates! That's going to be awesome! :D
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V-GER
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Postby V-GER; Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:14 pm Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

blacktomcat666 wrote:By the way, I'm working on a new function especially for the VAZ Modular/2010 crossfade wavetable osc. This will turn up to 90 seconds of sound into a complex sounding, scanable wavetable - avoiding phasing, buzzing and other artifacts you get if you try this with normal audio data. A first basic version will be included in one of the next updates.

:wheee: Will we have any choice for how many "waves" for that wavetable? Really looking forward to this. :tu:
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blacktomcat666
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148 posts since 8 Aug, 2005, from Braunschweig

Postby blacktomcat666; Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:31 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

V-GER wrote:
blacktomcat666 wrote:By the way, I'm working on a new function especially for the VAZ Modular/2010 crossfade wavetable osc. This will turn up to 90 seconds of sound into a complex sounding, scanable wavetable - avoiding phasing, buzzing and other artifacts you get if you try this with normal audio data. A first basic version will be included in one of the next updates.

:wheee: Will we have any choice for how many "waves" for that wavetable? Really looking forward to this. :tu:


At the moment I'm only testing the algorithms with 33 slots, each slot around 2 seconds. I know that this is a strong limitation, but I have to keep it usable. The more slots, the larger the amount of data and the slower the program. And the more difficult to access and view sound details (at least with this old school interface :D). But I still have to do much testing and programming to find out what works and what's possible...

Here's an example: The first 20 seconds of this track recomputed as wavetable (it's a simple four note sequence using 10 of 33 slots, scanning from slot 0 to 9 and then back from 9 to 0) :

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/z1m1yzl20arqdsw/VAZLoop01.mp3

The use of this feature depends on the material, but it might be great for scanning soundscapes and works best with noisy or complex material. This will only work with the later versions of VAZ products (those which have the crossfade option in the wavetable osc).
blacktomcat666
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148 posts since 8 Aug, 2005, from Braunschweig

Postby blacktomcat666; Fri May 02, 2014 4:27 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

Here are some example wavetable files for VAZ Modular/2010:

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/3bx789ajf5t601 ... tables.zip

Each file consists of 33 slots with 131072 samples per slot. They were created as test file dumps (what means the analyzer stage is by far not finished and there's still much work to do).

Don't forget to enable the "crossfade" option when loading the wavetables. Otherwise they won't work.
Kriminal
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18412 posts since 1 Oct, 2001, from England

Postby Kriminal; Tue May 06, 2014 11:06 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

is there a manual yet, I have no idea how it works....ive read the .pdf that comes with it, but its not as manual

cheers
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carrieres
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1356 posts since 9 Apr, 2002, from Poissy, France

Postby carrieres; Tue May 06, 2014 11:44 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

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Kriminal
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18412 posts since 1 Oct, 2001, from England

Postby Kriminal; Tue May 06, 2014 11:54 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

Does it create waveforms from scratch, or only from samples. Cant watch vids at the moment.
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carrieres
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1356 posts since 9 Apr, 2002, from Poissy, France

Postby carrieres; Tue May 06, 2014 11:57 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

from samples
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Kriminal
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18412 posts since 1 Oct, 2001, from England

Postby Kriminal; Tue May 06, 2014 12:08 pm Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

ok, not what im looking for then. Thanks
V-GER
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Postby V-GER; Tue May 06, 2014 12:09 pm Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

Kriminal wrote:Does it create waveforms from scratch, or only from samples. Cant watch vids at the moment.

The K-Term mode makes a wavetable consisting of up to 33 waveforms. You can handdraw them one by one. You can also envelope the up to 64 partials individually as you want each of them to progress concerning volume and phase through those up to 33 waves. And offcourse those two techniques can be combined.
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Ingonator
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7903 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Wed May 07, 2014 2:15 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

Finally was able to figure out how to create a wavetable with this.

In the past i had created tons of my own single cycles (e.g. with DNR Wave Designer) and now able to use them with this.
Just created a wavetable for PPG waveGenerator and it seems to work (when the file is copied into the "user" sub-folder of the Wavegenerator data folders).

Also saved in a few oter formats.


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VariKusBrainZ
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3557 posts since 16 Dec, 2002, from over there

Postby VariKusBrainZ; Sun May 11, 2014 1:00 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

I cant find the dwonload link in this thread!

My installed version doesnt want to update itself anymore
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PietW.
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648 posts since 6 May, 2010, from Munich, Germany

Postby PietW.; Sun May 11, 2014 1:52 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

VariKusBrainZ wrote:I cant find the dwonload link in this thread!

My installed version doesnt want to update itself anymore



http://dl.dropbox.com/s/1y0d88ts8zy1um7/Audio-Term.zip
VariKusBrainZ
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3557 posts since 16 Dec, 2002, from over there

Postby VariKusBrainZ; Sun May 11, 2014 3:25 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

PietW. wrote:
VariKusBrainZ wrote:I cant find the dwonload link in this thread!

My installed version doesnt want to update itself anymore



http://dl.dropbox.com/s/1y0d88ts8zy1um7/Audio-Term.zip


Apprectiated :)
blacktomcat666
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148 posts since 8 Aug, 2005, from Braunschweig

Postby blacktomcat666; Fri May 23, 2014 1:39 am Re: A small "Waveterm" for Terratec Komplexer (and other products)

Here's another audio example using the new wavetable algorithm i'm working on (using a 12 - second - snippet from TD - Logos). This example is very simple: a single note with an LFO modulating the scanning position while the lfo speed is decreased.

https://dl.dropbox.com/s/cm4wsrzr5bwkw5 ... formed.mp3

You may notice that this now also works with stereo wavetables - as far as I know VAZ Modular is the only product which is capable of doing this type of wavetables.

There's still much code to write, so it will take some further weeks until the next version of Audio-Term can be released.
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