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KTlin · Post by **KTlin** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:01 pm

Hi guys

I'm looking for a MIDI controller that would have at least one (preferably more) X-Y pad (preferably X/Y/Z - responding also to pressure, that is).

So far, I've only found the Korg nanopad (one XY pad).

I've also found this old thread from 2010 http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=303425 . The OP had the exact request as me.
So, did something like that appear in the last 4 years?

Thanks!

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:06 pm

The Quneo has 16 'drumpads' each of which has X and Y position, and pressure sensitivity.

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:11 pm

iPad/Android with ThouchOsc/Lemur etc etc

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:30 pm

tehlord wrote:iPad/Android with ThouchOsc/Lemur etc etc

Thatd give you X and Y, but no Z

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:38 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:
tehlord wrote:iPad/Android with ThouchOsc/Lemur etc etc
Thatd give you X and Y, but no Z

Ah my bad.

Skim reading ftl

KTlin · Post by **KTlin** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:43 pm

Thanks for the quick replies, guys.
I would prefer not to go the iPad/Android way (I own an Android tablet, but as with all android systems, the latency is horrible). Also, it doesn't respond to pressure.
Quneo is nice (and expensive), but it's way more than I need.

ras.s · Post by **ras.s** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:53 pm

Some of the Korg Kaoss pads output MIDI CC, no pressure though.

And then there's joystick game controllers, that can be turned into MIDI devices, .. O_o

KTlin · Post by **KTlin** » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:47 am

I'm quite intrigued by the fact that at the moment there's only 3 MIDI controllers with an XY pad: Korg Nanopad, Korg Taktile keyboards and the Novation Remote keyboards, although there's a lot of plugins and stuff that features XY modulation.
Annoying

MFXxx · Post by **MFXxx** » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:31 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:The Quneo has 16 'drumpads' each of which has X and Y position, and pressure sensitivity.

+1 takes a bit of comprehension to set up, but templates are growing and will do exactly what you're after

dformd · Post by **dformd** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:23 am

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/10/wacom-bamboo-pad/

plus an app that converts HID to MIDI.
I use Bidule with an old Wacom; works well, but you can likely find a cheaper or free alternative.

dformd · Post by **dformd** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:02 am

couple free (and oldish) HID to MIDI options that may work you:

Windows: MIDITab - http://www.tinygod.com/productold.html

Mac: µ midi controller - http://www.musicunfolding.com/MU_MIDI_Controller.html

KTlin · Post by **KTlin** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:18 am

Thanks dformd

I already have a wacom tablet (for design stuff) but I think using it as a MIDI controller with one hand and playing the keyboard with the other would be awkward (especially during a live performance). It's one thing to move your finger over an XY pad and quite another thing to reach and grab the pen anytime you want to modulate something. IMO

dformd · Post by **dformd** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:44 pm

I see; understandable.

Would the AudioMulch Metasurface be a better option?
Here's a demo video:
Note: it works with VST and AudioUnit plugins as well; Windows or Mac.
It's also MIDI controllable, AND with the appropriate plugin can control a myriad of outgoing MIDI messages.
Insert Piz Here's free MIDI VSTs may be your friend here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2ox16chbnY&sns=em

KTlin · Post by **KTlin** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:02 pm

Thanks for the suggestion.
I forgot about AudioMulch. It won't solve my problem (I'll still need a MIDI controller with at least an XY pad) but it looks interesting. I'll give it a try. I suppose it can't be used as a VST inside a another DAW, right?

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:38 pm

Theres a max4live device equivelant to metasurface .

I have a Faderfox LV3 that has 2 joysticks and the Novation SL Mkii which has an XY pad.
http://www.faderfox.de/lv3.html

I use a vMeter which can control 3 paramters with 1 finger
http://vmeter.net/

I also use an iCreative that you can use the xy pad and the IR contol at the same time, effectively giving
X, Y and Z control
https://www.icondigitalusa.com/content/ ... controller

Not forgetting the long in the tooth iCube X system that allows me to connect practically anything
http://infusionsystems.com/catalog/index.php/cPath/21

Looking for a MIDI controller with an X/Y/Z pad