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Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

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KVRAF
 
2966 posts since 3 Jan, 2003, from Vancouver

Postby pough; Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:10 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

andy-cytomic wrote:Not sure what you're talking about with the purple buttons, I've calibrated my monitor and there is no purple at all on the interface, is your monitor colour calibrated?


The "FM" and "MIDI" definitely look purple to me. I brought the image into Photoshop and a 5x5 sample (because it's artifacty) gives me 7d7abd.

Clarification #1: I don't care about the colours - just saying I see purple.

Clarification #2: Looking at this image from your comment at the bottom of page 114.

http://cytomic.com/files/drop-scalable-large.jpg
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KVRAF
 
9027 posts since 6 Apr, 2003

Postby grymmjack; Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:57 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

andy-cytomic wrote:
Endor-8o8 wrote:Wow this new version of the GUI looks wonderful Andy, congrats !
I'd love to see that kind of graphical improvement to The Glue...

I forgot to say, thanks to everyone for their input on the gui development, your comments helped me make lots of improvements.

I will be re-doing The Glue as well, I'm much better at 3D now than when I did The Glue. The combination of MOI 3D http://moi3d.com/ for hard surface modelling and and Modo http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/modo/ for animation, texturing, and rendering is really good!


Andy, thanks for sharing your tool choices. 3D is something I've been on the fence to learn and with Blender it's pretty steep. MOI looks like it's about the right amount of features, ease of use, and power.

Have you considered Blender3D? It's free. I ask because I'm guessing you did and you settled on something besides, hence you might have insight to share.

I'm really looking forward to the Drop when it's finally born. Your plugins are fantastic!
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797 posts since 1 Apr, 2005

Postby LiteOn; Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:09 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

Hi Andy,

that new & scalable GUI is - don't use that marketing blurb usually - awesome news. :clap:
For me and my old eyes the big GUI might get used quite often. Really looking forward. :)

andy-cytomic wrote:The combination of MOI 3D http://moi3d.com/ for hard surface modelling and and Modo http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/modo/ for animation, texturing, and rendering is really good!
Though I always loved to have Modo (great GUI & Workflow afaik), I had and have to stick to Blender, because I simply cannot justifiy the additional software license expenses for my once-in-a-while 3D doodlings.


Cheers,
LiteOn
KVRian
 
1286 posts since 3 Dec, 2008

Postby andy-cytomic; Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:48 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:Hey Andy, I was one of the people who was trying to be constructively critical of the last GUI and this new one is much improved. I still prefer the original circular shinier big knobs from the current beta, but that's just a personal thing. Nice update! Look forward to the next release.

Thanks for your feedback on the previous gui! I was rushing it and the results weren't so good, I'm much happier now with the look, especially the button glow. Previously the button glow was faked a bit with post processing using a bloom filter, but this glow is done by the new nodal shading feature of modo where I could individually increase the brightness of just the indirect rays to make the glow, which looks much better.
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Postby andy-cytomic; Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:47 am Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

Mace404 wrote:Welcome ^^
They are mentioned as spread and shift in the manual but labeled as spacing and offset in the Drop itself.

The old gui / manual I had them as spacing and offset, but I've updated them now to spread and shift which is hopefully easier to understand what is going on, if the gui is still showing spacing and offset then I there is an update version you can download.
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KVRist
 
108 posts since 12 Mar, 2005
 

Postby Mace404; Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:51 am Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

andy-cytomic wrote:
Mace404 wrote:Welcome ^^
They are mentioned as spread and shift in the manual but labeled as spacing and offset in the Drop itself.

The old gui / manual I had them as spacing and offset, but I've updated them now to spread and shift which is hopefully easier to understand what is going on, if the gui is still showing spacing and offset then I there is an update version you can download.


Don't have the plugin here at work so I googled an image. That was an old version obviously :)
I see you updated them, yes. Also the new GUI looks awesome.
KVRist
 
497 posts since 20 Jun, 2010

Postby Dr.Gunjah; Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:18 am Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

andy-cytomic wrote:
Dr.Gunjah wrote:
andy-cytomic wrote:I've been very busy re-design the gui (again!). I rushed the previous design trying to get it done before moving, but I've now taken the time to do it properly. The high resolution render looked so good I wanted to somehow bring this to everyone, and with the help of new Juce functionality, I have now done a smoothly scalable interface.

The new GUI looks pretty cool!
I really like the new background surface and the glowing effect on the buttons.
Not to mention scaling funtionality which is amazing!
Only one thing to nag about - the background of the ring marks have weak contrast imho, it's like white lines on nearly-white-gray background. Kind of nitpicking though.
Well, since I'm at it, these purple buttons... :hihi:
Come to think of it - Nevermind, I'd rather play with those new filterz... ASAP! :D

Thanks for the feedback! I deliberately made the contrast low on ring and ring marks, since they are still visible to work with but this way don't dazzle the eye as much with a zillion little lines which looks a bit busy. Not sure what you're talking about with the purple buttons, I've calibrated my monitor and there is no purple at all on the interface, is your monitor colour calibrated?

Okay I see it's a matter of taste with the ring marks, I liked the "crisp" style on the last mockup :D
Like pough already said, the FM and MIDI buttons look purple to me. My monitors are not colour calibrated though if I check the colour in paint, those buttons have a substantially higher Red value than any other blue tone on the GUI. It's not the end of the world though imho it kind of degrades the gui a bit since all other blue tones are pretty cool. Matter of taste though.
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KVRAF
 
3436 posts since 16 Dec, 2002, from over there

Postby VariKusBrainZ; Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:52 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

Multi touch compatible if possib;e :D
KVRist
 
166 posts since 29 Jul, 2009, from San Diego, CA

Postby DubLifeSD; Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:24 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

Wait, are we already on version 2 of The Drop with an all new GUI?..... :D But seriously, I've been watching this thread for 3 years. What a TEASE.
KVRian
 
1286 posts since 3 Dec, 2008

Postby andy-cytomic; Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:40 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

Dr.Gunjah wrote:Like pough already said, the FM and MIDI buttons look purple to me. My monitors are not colour calibrated though if I check the colour in paint, those buttons have a substantially higher Red value than any other blue tone on the GUI. It's not the end of the world though imho it kind of degrades the gui a bit since all other blue tones are pretty cool. Matter of taste though.

This is really important to know that people are seeing this a more blue than red, since that means people are not able to view the images correctly.

The pixels in the raw image themselves are not red at all, but instead more green than red but most of all blue, the average of a 5 pixel area is: 7578b5 (ie least red, then slightly more green, then most of all blue)

Images have "colour profiles" built into them, which are mean to be used to display colour correctly. This is most likely where the problem is. Luckily in the plugin I load the png and display the file myself, so I am in control of how colour is displayed, which is meant to help preserve colours and will since the colour profile is used correctly, but it seems lots of people are not using this profile at all, so the colours are not being preserved:

http://viget.com/inspire/the-mysterious ... olor-shift
http://dpbestflow.org/color/color-space ... r-profiles

I've download this application: http://dpbestflow.org/color/color-space ... r-profiles, which strips colour profiles, and I've uploaded the image again, can you please see if this has different colours for you?

http://cytomic.com/files/drop-scalable-large-2.png
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KVRian
 
1286 posts since 3 Dec, 2008

Postby andy-cytomic; Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:42 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

pough wrote:
The "FM" and "MIDI" definitely look purple to me. I brought the image into Photoshop and a 5x5 sample (because it's artifacty) gives me 7d7abd.

Clarification #1: I don't care about the colours - just saying I see purple.

Clarification #2: Looking at this image from your comment at the bottom of page 114.

http://cytomic.com/files/drop-scalable-large.jpg

Thanks for the clarification. Your machine is distorting the colours for some reason, probably due to not honouring the imbedded colour profile. Please see my previous post for more on this.
The Glue, The Drop - www.cytomic.com
Synth Squad - www.fxpansion.com
KVRian
 
516 posts since 1 Sep, 2008, from US
 

Postby softska; Tue Apr 29, 2014 6:56 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

FWIW, I'm seeing the purple as well. drop-scalable-large.png and drop-scalable-large-2.png color looks the same to me.

Doesn't bother me but it does look quite saturated on my screen. OSX 10.9 MBPr
KVRian
 
1286 posts since 3 Dec, 2008

Postby andy-cytomic; Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:15 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

MFXxx wrote:As I recall with this there was some CPU spiking, this was mainly due to non cytomic plugins to be fair.

Actually it isn't really evident over the speakers, just a little distortion coming through like around 1:13 which is only really audible on cans.

MFXxx wrote:Well my point in sharing was to demonstrate how good the drop sounds and this was made 6 months ago, so can only imagine what the finished products going to be.

Thanks! It sounds great :)

MFXxx wrote:Purchased this what must be getting on to 2 years now and still not regretting a thing. Great believer with faith in your work. Recently sold some waves plugins as I found myself constantly using TheGlue. I would like to see vst3 but I can live with the quaddro sidechain in Cubase for the time being I say ..."it's all good mama, it's all good"...

VST3 and AAX support are on the way as soon as I've finished The Drop :tu:
The Glue, The Drop - www.cytomic.com
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2465 posts since 18 Jul, 2008, from New York
  

Postby Frantz; Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:30 pm Re: Cytomic "The Drop" Resonant Filter

FM and MIDI also look purple to me.
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