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FXpansion Etch

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion

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jontah
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700 posts since 31 Oct, 2011, from Sverige

Postby jontah; Tue May 01, 2012 4:55 am FXpansion Etch

What do you guys think about this filter? worth getting? Anyone played around with it and compared it to Soundtoys Filterfreak?

It's ridiculous how much I love the filters in DCAM Synthsquad and Geist. I suppose this is the same filter used as there!

Hand down for FXpansion, always making amazing products, there's some special era over that company. They always win!
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JD Gaffe
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Postby JD Gaffe; Tue May 01, 2012 6:26 am

Well Etch is a huge CPU cost, so if you use it, it would be for an important lead or some big part of the track. I stick Filterfreak on a lot of my tracks, so Etch wouldn't ever be able to do that.

Well, unless you have a nice fancy computer.
samsam
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1358 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Postby samsam; Tue May 01, 2012 6:43 am

I'm demoing it now, it's about 3% CPU on a tune I'm working on (with a year old iMac) so it's not that bad.

Sounds great, nice easy mod features, nice comb filter, if I were richer I'd definitely get it.
jontah
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Postby jontah; Tue May 01, 2012 7:46 am

JD Gaffe wrote:Well Etch is a huge CPU cost, so if you use it, it would be for an important lead or some big part of the track. I stick Filterfreak on a lot of my tracks, so Etch wouldn't ever be able to do that.

Well, unless you have a nice fancy computer.


oh it is? then I might use sonalksis TBK or something just for the easy stuff such as LP, HP, BP normal stuff and Etch for those filter special effects.

I got Filterfreak too, but I really don't like it, I like the filter itself, but it's GUI is not convincing to me.

For some reason just for the filter, I don't like the GUI, but I like it for echoboy and those other plugins such as Panman decapitator etc.
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Leonardus
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37 posts since 5 Feb, 2006

Postby Leonardus; Tue May 06, 2014 5:29 pm Re: FXpansion Etch

An alternative use for Etch. I had been looking for a plug that would emulate the effect my UA 610 Solo DI has on hardware synths here. (It perceivably bodies up a thin sound, adds really nice rich harmonic overtones) Etch really surprised me with how well it excels at this. With no filter implemented, add just a touch of distortion add a smidge of compression within Etch and voila. For me, Etch used this way outperforms many dedicated tube / distortion emulators. Before for this purpose I was using Camel Crusher, Studio Devil's Tube Line Leveler, various Bootsie plugs, and a few others with less than satisfactory results.
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djscorb
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332 posts since 3 May, 2007, from UK

Postby djscorb; Tue May 06, 2014 10:37 pm Re: FXpansion Etch

Hey Leonardus

I use Etch like this too sometimes. Single Mault SE also excels at thickening up synth parts so give it a try if you can. :)


Cheers

Scorb
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VariKusBrainZ
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Thu May 08, 2014 7:25 am Re: FXpansion Etch

You should also check Cytomic's The Drop.
Probably the most analog sounding multi filter and also used, as described above, for beefing up your signals if you disable the filters. The Dev contributed to the coding of Etch but The Drop's filter algos are superior.
He builds a physical implementation of the filter in some cases and then models the components.
Version 1 should will be out soon and will include an extensive audio rate modulation system
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Cintronic
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389 posts since 24 Aug, 2004, from under the big oak tree

Postby Cintronic; Thu May 08, 2014 8:24 am Re:

JD Gaffe wrote:Well Etch is a huge CPU cost.
Well, unless you have a nice fancy computer.


Only a hog if oversampling is on. I Use it fine of a 7 year old iMac.
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V0RT3X
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4235 posts since 3 Jul, 2012

Postby V0RT3X; Thu May 08, 2014 8:59 am Re: FXpansion Etch

I prefer Cytomic the drop when i want more realism in my filter sweeps. However when i owned Etch i found myself using it quite a bit as a sort of swiss army knife mixing tool.

Since it has compressor, filter and distortion modules in it with a really great automation system you can do all sorts of great things with it.

I think you should demo it to see if it will fit your needs.

The only thing i didn't really like is the comb filter.
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dave dove
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Postby dave dove; Thu May 08, 2014 10:09 am Re: FXpansion Etch

makes a good channel strip...

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V0RT3X
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Postby V0RT3X; Thu May 08, 2014 10:12 am Re: FXpansion Etch

dave dove wrote:makes a good channel strip...

dave


Actually i was wondering about that myself.

I never used it like that but i thought often how easy it was to just load up etch and use it more as a mixing tool along side my other mixing tools.

It would be awesome if Fxpansion decided to update etch so it could do multi-band processing similar to how maul does.
Having the best tools and technical knowledge isn't gonna do much for you if you don't understand how to make good music.
vespesian
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29 posts since 19 May, 2006, from canada

Postby vespesian; Thu May 08, 2014 11:49 am Re: FXpansion Etch

Etch is great but needs a little more love from Fxpansion....I find it can be a little buggy - esp. with side-chaining options.
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_leras
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302 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Postby _leras; Fri May 09, 2014 12:45 pm Re: FXpansion Etch

V0RT3X wrote:I prefer Cytomic the drop when i want more realism in my filter sweeps. However when i owned Etch i found myself using it quite a bit as a sort of swiss army knife mixing tool.

Since it has compressor, filter and distortion modules in it with a really great automation system you can do all sorts of great things with it.

I think you should demo it to see if it will fit your needs.

The only thing i didn't really like is the comb filter.

I'd agree that the filter is pretty flexible, a few different options. It's great for general filtering. Never seems to be the 'magic' sauce, or buckets of character, but lovely and squelchy, certainly great for anything that isn't a main part.

I do like the modulations though... not a lot of other filters have as many options that close to hand.

For the $20 audio midi offer price, it really was a bargain.

edit: just came across this, which has great examples of modulations
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s72pgPiYmD4
samsam
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1358 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Postby samsam; Fri May 09, 2014 7:47 pm Re: FXpansion Etch

Yea, funny I was in the thread complaining about the price but then picked it up in the no-brainer. Lucky me.

Etch is fantastic, love it. And I still think the comb rocks, wonderful for subtle changes and more d'n'b style gnarliness too.
Leonardus
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37 posts since 5 Feb, 2006

Postby Leonardus; Fri May 09, 2014 8:32 pm Re: FXpansion Etch

Thanks for your suggestions. The Drop is on my short list but I'm very happy with Etch. Isn't Maul SE's magic embedded inside Etch's distortion module? One would think..
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