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DUNE 2 is out now!!

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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Kriminal
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18486 posts since 1 Oct, 2001, from England

Postby Kriminal; Wed May 14, 2014 12:17 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Ingonator wrote:You could be sure i'll contribute enough to justify a free license...



shame you didnt test when it was actually needed

cant wait to hear those supersaw brass patches and metallic WT scans
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mcnoone
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5367 posts since 8 Oct, 2007, from an inharmonious society

Postby mcnoone; Wed May 14, 2014 12:18 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

I bought the upgrade, and it was worth it.
:)
Although I've got 3 crash reports to send in, and certain other weirdness going on, but nothing too bad. I'll look into that soon.
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Ingonator
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Postby Ingonator; Wed May 14, 2014 12:20 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

edit, nevermind
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Sendy
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4418 posts since 20 Jul, 2010

Postby Sendy; Wed May 14, 2014 1:15 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Looks like nobody has noticed my report of stepping when you try to play with MIDI expressions like pitchbend or modwheel. Just goto the INIT patch, set pitchbend to 12 and play some bends of differing speeds, and tell me what you hear! This is synth-breaking stuff when you actually try to play expressively over MIDI! How can it be missed?! This is important stuff!!

I guess I'll try and email the developer. (Edit: excessive complianing removed, but developers take note, I am avaliable for beta testing, and I have a track record for finding bugs if they're there!).
Last edited by Sendy on Wed May 14, 2014 1:24 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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cytospur
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737 posts since 25 Jun, 2002, from London, UK

Postby cytospur; Wed May 14, 2014 1:19 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report of stepping when you try to play with MIDI expressions like pitchbend or modwheel. Just goto the INIT patch, set pitchbend to 12 and play some bends of differing speeds, and tell me what you hear! This is synth-breaking stuff when you actually try to play expressively over MIDI! How can it be missed?! This is important stuff!!

I guess I'll try and email the developer.


Sorry, as a beta tester I did miss that. Sorry. I'll check it out tomorrow. Having to entertain the wife right now, so not able to check immediately.
Algorithmic tunes: http://snd.sc/o15cKD

DUNE soundbank: http://markholt.moonfruit.com/

Free saturation/distortion VST: https://www.box.com/shared/zdgyouov21
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Sendy
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4418 posts since 20 Jul, 2010

Postby Sendy; Wed May 14, 2014 1:27 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

cytospur wrote:
Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report of stepping when you try to play with MIDI expressions like pitchbend or modwheel. Just goto the INIT patch, set pitchbend to 12 and play some bends of differing speeds, and tell me what you hear! This is synth-breaking stuff when you actually try to play expressively over MIDI! How can it be missed?! This is important stuff!!

I guess I'll try and email the developer.


Sorry, as a beta tester I did miss that. Sorry. I'll check it out tomorrow. Having to entertain the wife right now, so not able to check immediately.


Thanks for looking into it. It's quite easy to miss really, because of the lush sound and FX of the synth, but it shows up quite readily on a spectrogram.
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Kriminal
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18486 posts since 1 Oct, 2001, from England

Postby Kriminal; Wed May 14, 2014 1:37 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report.


Have you tried the official Synapse forum?

http://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewforum.php?f=1
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Sendy
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4418 posts since 20 Jul, 2010

Postby Sendy; Wed May 14, 2014 1:51 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Kriminal wrote:
Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report.


Have you tried the official Synapse forum?

http://forum.synapse-audio.com/viewforum.php?f=1


No, but I'm doing that now. Was hoping to email the dev but it looks like signing up to the forum is the only way. Good job I have a personal password slave to keep track of all these passwords :hihi:
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Chris-S
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346 posts since 10 Nov, 2013, from Germany

Postby Chris-S; Wed May 14, 2014 1:56 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report of stepping when you try to play with MIDI expressions like pitchbend or modwheel. Just goto the INIT patch, set pitchbend to 12 and play some bends of differing speeds, and tell me what you hear!

I did that but did not hear any stepping.
Could you upload an example-recording?
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Sendy
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4418 posts since 20 Jul, 2010

Postby Sendy; Wed May 14, 2014 2:07 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Chris-S wrote:
Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report of stepping when you try to play with MIDI expressions like pitchbend or modwheel. Just goto the INIT patch, set pitchbend to 12 and play some bends of differing speeds, and tell me what you hear!

I did that but did not hear any stepping.
Could you upload an example-recording?


Here's a spectrogram showing Dune2 on the left and Diva on the right.

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Here's audio of it:

https://soundcloud.com/sendy/dunesteps

BTW, I made a post in the Synapse Audio forum, but forgot to mention what synth it was. Now I can't find my post to correct it, I guess it's being moderated.

Please note, this applies to ALL MIDI modulation, not just pitch bends. I first encountered it modulating sync freq. with aftertouch.
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cytospur
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737 posts since 25 Jun, 2002, from London, UK

Postby cytospur; Wed May 14, 2014 2:42 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

I've approved your post now Sendy, so make you can make your corrections now :)
Algorithmic tunes: http://snd.sc/o15cKD

DUNE soundbank: http://markholt.moonfruit.com/

Free saturation/distortion VST: https://www.box.com/shared/zdgyouov21
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Sendy
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4418 posts since 20 Jul, 2010

Postby Sendy; Wed May 14, 2014 2:57 pm Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Ok, done, thanks.
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Richard_Synapse
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536 posts since 19 Dec, 2010

Postby Richard_Synapse; Thu May 15, 2014 12:32 am Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

MIDI Performance controllers are smoothed, not necessarily as much as in some other synths. It always involves a trade-off, maximally smooth means having maximal latency, while rough transitions are instant, allow more fine control and rapid modulations.

I think we'll make this adjustable, so that everyone can choose their favorite setting :)

Richard
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mcnoone
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5367 posts since 8 Oct, 2007, from an inharmonious society

Postby mcnoone; Thu May 15, 2014 2:44 am Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

Sendy wrote:Looks like nobody has noticed my report of stepping when you try to play with MIDI expressions like pitchbend or modwheel.

I don't get the stepping with pitch of mod wheels here.
Maybe the controller has some settings that can be changed for the modwheels.
I'm on the novation impulse. Which controller are you using?
Check the manual to see if there is some modwheel curve settings or similar.
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Teksonik
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8711 posts since 15 Sep, 2001, from Las Vegas,USA

Postby Teksonik; Thu May 15, 2014 3:10 am Re: DUNE 2 is out now!!

I also get the stepping when using the pitch bend on DUNE 2's gui as well as when using my Axiom contoller but I never use a pitch bend wheel slowly enough to notice any stepping and rarely use a bend range more than +2 -2 probably due to the fact that I'm primarily a guitar player at this point so bending up/down a whole tone is natural. I can't think of a case where I'd need to slowly increase or decrease pitch enough to notice the stepping but I see Rich has offered a solution so everybody should find a setting they like............. :)
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