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LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

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KVRist
 
73 posts since 20 Jan, 2014

Postby tresf; Thu May 22, 2014 7:52 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

briandc wrote:(and I suspect probably anything else by GTG, but testing will continue..)


This is a safe assumption. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lmN7-ZTyfk
KVRAF
 
3298 posts since 23 May, 2004, from Northern Central CA (not as good as Eureka)

Postby Musical Gym; Thu May 22, 2014 8:20 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

tresf wrote:OK... @glokraw: Who helps with/approves/answers questions with that?

Apply here
KVRist
 
73 posts since 20 Jan, 2014

Postby tresf; Thu May 22, 2014 8:21 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

Thanks.
KVRAF
 
3298 posts since 23 May, 2004, from Northern Central CA (not as good as Eureka)

Postby Musical Gym; Thu May 22, 2014 8:23 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

tresf wrote:Thanks.
Thanks for all your work on it.
KVRist
 
250 posts since 25 Jun, 2012, from Italy
 

Postby briandc; Thu May 22, 2014 10:48 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

tresf wrote:
briandc wrote:(and I suspect probably anything else by GTG, but testing will continue..)


This is a safe assumption. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lmN7-ZTyfk


A-ha! So you're one step ahead of me! :D

I like how VeSTige provides patch selection in the LMMS window. Without that feature, it would be hard to change presets with some synths, methinks.
The effects chain capability is also really handy. NICE! :)


brian
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KVRist
 
250 posts since 25 Jun, 2012, from Italy
 

Postby briandc; Wed May 28, 2014 7:11 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

Doing some VST synth testing for linux..
I've discovered that although the Tyrell Nexus 6 loads and works fine, the patches for it are not .fxb nor .fxp, but another format: .h2p. Is there a way to import these patches? It would be a BIG plus! :)


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KVRist
 
73 posts since 20 Jan, 2014

Postby tresf; Wed May 28, 2014 7:42 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

Good question. I have no idea. You could try adding it to the dialog and recompile to see if it works.

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/blob/maste ... n.cpp#L514

If it does, you could do a quick patch and submit it to the project.

If it does not, I would recommend further research and a proper bug report to explain the file format and why it should be supported.

-Tres
KVRAF
 
4996 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Wed May 28, 2014 5:02 pm Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

briandc wrote:Doing some VST synth testing for linux..
I've discovered that although the Tyrell Nexus 6 loads and works fine, the patches for it are not .fxb nor .fxp, but another format: .h2p. Is there a way to import these patches? It would be a BIG plus! :)

brian
If 'loads and works fine' means it displays the full u-he gui,
click in the horizontal window in the top center of the
instrument, and the widgets alongside it. All u-he synths use a similar setup,
but located and drawn differently, according to purpose and whim.
Cheers
KVRist
 
250 posts since 25 Jun, 2012, from Italy
 

Postby briandc; Thu May 29, 2014 12:42 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

glokraw wrote:
briandc wrote:Doing some VST synth testing for linux..
I've discovered that although the Tyrell Nexus 6 loads and works fine, the patches for it are not .fxb nor .fxp, but another format: .h2p. Is there a way to import these patches? It would be a BIG plus! :)

brian
If 'loads and works fine' means it displays the full u-he gui,
click in the horizontal window in the top center of the
instrument, and the widgets alongside it. All u-he synths use a similar setup,
but located and drawn differently, according to purpose and whim.
Cheers


HI Glokraw and Tresf,
actually, to be more specific, the Nexus 6 loads and the full gui appears, and the presets can be used, but other banks cannot be loaded (or at least I can't figure out how to do it in the gui), and the data in the windows does not appear until you click on the window. iirc, the parameters are also not marked fully. But since this is a "top" free synth, if it is possible to do a bit of additional work to get it working more perfectly, it would be an important addition to LMMS' capabilities, imho. But I have no knowledge in programming so I don't know how difficult or problematic to do, nor how long it would take to do. (If I could write code I'd be happy to give it a shot.. )

brian
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KVRAF
 
4996 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Thu May 29, 2014 2:55 pm Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

Did you use the u-he installer and default folder locations,
followed by links to where LMMS looks for vsts?
Do you have the various microsoft font packages installed?
I think vera truetype font is used by most u-he synths.
Did you install the vst V3 version by 'mistake'?

I used TyrellN612Winstaller.exe, vst V2, and installed to
/home/me/.wine/drive_c where the TyrellN6.data folder
now exists, and the .dll in Steinberg/VstPlugins.

The gui displays and works, everything labeled and visible,
in linux reaper, and fst, at the same time.
Good luck
KVRist
 
250 posts since 25 Jun, 2012, from Italy
 

Postby briandc; Sat May 31, 2014 3:03 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

glokraw wrote:Did you use the u-he installer and default folder locations,
followed by links to where LMMS looks for vsts?
Do you have the various microsoft font packages installed?
I think vera truetype font is used by most u-he synths.
Did you install the vst V3 version by 'mistake'?

I used TyrellN612Winstaller.exe, vst V2, and installed to
/home/me/.wine/drive_c where the TyrellN6.data folder
now exists, and the .dll in Steinberg/VstPlugins.

The gui displays and works, everything labeled and visible,
in linux reaper, and fst, at the same time.
Good luck


Actually, I just unzipped the zip file in my Downloads folder (where I have placed all my VST instruments) and then open them in LMMS.
Reaper also opens it fine. (BTW, how do you use fst? (or can you pm me if it's too off-topic..?)

I suppose my computer setup is quite crude and scandalous, as I don't generally move the folders around very much. It's never created problems for me, although if in this case the synth is not showing information in the gui windows I might need to change something. The synth works fine, but since I can't load other banks, I think the "data" folder included in the zip file should be moved, but I don't know where..

brian
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KVRAF
 
4996 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat May 31, 2014 1:43 pm Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

I think you should start fresh and run the installer, accept the defaults,
and then link the .dll to the folders that lmms and other hosts
looks at for windows vsts.

fst is just an old simple command that uses wine/wineasio
to launch a .dll like a standalone.

fst TyrellN6.dll

http://sourceforge.net/projects/fsthost/

http://www.joebutton.co.uk/fst/

Festige was created to provide a gui for the command.

I just link desired vsts to /home/me so there is no path to type in,
route in qjackctl like normal, without host overhead.
This is great for plugins that have their own preset handling built-in,
like u-he, or simple GUIs like the LePou/TSE type amp-sims, where you'll dial in
a tone with just a few knobs to ponder. Also nice to add that final
:hyper: magical :hyper: touch that you conjered up while creating
sonic perfection.
Cheers
KVRist
 
250 posts since 25 Jun, 2012, from Italy
 

Postby briandc; Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:16 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

@Glokraw: thanks for the tips. I already had fsthost installed, now it's working great with Obxd.

HOWEVER, Obxd is creating a problem with LMMS: when I click on a knob on the GUI, the GUI slips down the window about half way! Then I tweak another knob, same thing. It then moves completely off the screen and the hide/show gui doesn't resolve it, I have to re-load it if I want to tweak.
Tresf: where should I post this bug?

brian
Take control of your PC: use Linux!
amSynth demos on Soundcloud
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KVRist
 
73 posts since 20 Jan, 2014

Postby tresf; Sun Jun 01, 2014 6:21 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

briandc wrote:... where should I post this bug?


https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/new
KVRist
 
250 posts since 25 Jun, 2012, from Italy
 

Postby briandc; Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:24 am Re: LMMS project @ GitHub (Prev. Sourceforge)

tresf wrote:
briandc wrote:... where should I post this bug?


https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/new


Done! Let's hope it's quickly solvable, so I can add it to my list! :D

BTW, here are the softsynth VSTis (so far-- more to come) that I have seen work fine in LMMS (and that weren't already in the database when I started) :

GTG JP7A
GTG NR2010
Ansine2
RMXL
Cosmos2
Casiopea
SQ8L
Aqua
TheBlooo
TheScrooo
Nabla
4Evar
Kassiopeia!2.0
Mopar
Abakos
CY Freemoog
Deputy
Disphase
efm-MicroModular
Oberon
Phazac Osc
Tyrell Nexus 6
GalactiX 14
Harm
Knork+
Kabgnals
NoteGraphica
S30
GTG MS 2008
GTG EP 2008
Rogue
PG-8X
ElektroStudio 10 Analog Pack- v.2.54b

Generally speaking, if there are multiple synths by the same maker, they tend to all work (or not).
A few that don't:
Anawave, Augur, 3OSC8, Dark Moon, Artemis, Artphase 1.0, Additive Table Synth “Angular Momentum”


brian
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