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What would make you switch to Linux?

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rpm
KVRist
 
241 posts since 17 Dec, 2004

Postby rpm; Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:11 am Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

I was a big fan of linux a few years back. Did all my office work on linux (usually Ubuntu but tried many other distros). I attempted to do music but JACK was confusing and I couldn't get my audio interface to work even though it was said to be compatible with linux. The software was visually unpleasant, too, though I could get myself to tolerate that. And all the plugins I'm used to using, along with tons of freebies, are in the Windows environment. So, I stuck with Windows 7, which works very well.

Maybe someday in the future again...
Tracktion 5, Geist, AD Axon, Reaktor 5, Guitar Rig 5, EZDrummer 2, EZKeys, iZotope Nectar Elements (donated by a random kvr user: THANKS!!!) and bunch of free/demo stuff on a Windows 7 PC.
KVRist
 
462 posts since 30 Jul, 2013
 

Postby bigcat1969; Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:09 am Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

Yup its a music blog about giving away freebie instruments, so definitely a very specific set of users. Also page views so not simply number of visitors and certainly there are repeat visitors. Far from perfect, but I thought still interesting and relevant to this conversation. I was amazed at the number of Macs, I assumed that would be far lower. Also I was surprised at the lack of IE users.
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KVRAF
 
4995 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:28 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

Jace-BeOS wrote: If the user is a musician, artist, or other type of non-coding content-creating specialty (or just an end user), their purpose couldn't be much more profoundly different from that of the linux enthusiast's.

A linux enthusiast also browses the web, watches movies, plays games, does
email and chat, etc etc, to imagine that "a musician, artist, or other type of
non-coding content-creating specialty" linux user does not, seems absurd
on the face of it. :?
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KVRAF
 
3402 posts since 1 Aug, 2005, from where butter flies
 

Postby Zombie Queen; Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:38 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

No Adobe CS for Linux, no Sonar for Linux. It pretty much stops me.
KVRAF
 
4995 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:01 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

Looks like lot of curious people got burned by trying a linux that was
wrapped with golden promises, laced with unstable packages,
and followed by a lack of documentation and support. Not exactly
a winning concept for promoting an OS. :(

I consider myself lucky, that my hardware was already well supported,
and I found a solid conservative linux, so the first attempts were
successful enough to persevere through learning the basics of maintaining
a usable linux daw. I see the whole linux OS as 'the daw', because the inner workings
are fully accessible, and smart users are always sharing new ways to utilize
the parts to enhace productivity. If Reaper and a few other vst hosts
failed to run well in wine, I would probably use windows more often.
There are so many great vst instruments/fx to explore, that are easily
included in a linux system, that has a fine core group to begin with.
Cheers
KVRAF
 
4995 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:10 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

Zombie Queen wrote:No Adobe CS for Linux, no Sonar for Linux. It pretty much stops me.

That perfectly sensible, and many people have similar scenarios.

Let's say you find an older, but high quality laptop, sold dirt cheap.
Rapture and z3ta run fine in reaper/wine, you could have a cheap but
useful setup to leave with someone you sometimes visit,
parents/grandparents, inlaws, siblings/kids., old friends/bandmates,
and have something fun to do when others were pre-occupied by things
of little interest to you.

Enjoying a linux system need not exclude what you deem necessary.

How many times have we seen, 'I switched to Mac', followed soon by
'I wish plugins xyz were ported to Mac :cry: ' :hihi:
KVRAF
 
4995 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:14 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

http://www.linuxvoice.com/the-big-switch/

One of the few large linux switches, looking back
at the ten year process of converting a cities 15,000
windows using government workers, to a slightly different OS.
Cheers
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KVRAF
 
8229 posts since 9 Jan, 2004, from leroyaumeuni

Postby spaceman; Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:15 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

If all I did was write documents, send emails and browse the web, I would be using Linux without a doubt.
My other host is Bruce Forsyth
KVRAF
 
2976 posts since 18 Oct, 2004
 

Postby Arglebargle; Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:22 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

literally everything about Linux.
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KVRAF
 
3239 posts since 20 Sep, 2005

Postby codec_spurt; Sat Jun 07, 2014 4:29 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

Why don't I switch to Linux. I have tried. Oh lord I have tried.

Unfortunately I am not clever enough.

Let me rephrase that - I am stupid.

I have spent many many nights burning the candle, neglecting close family member's birthday's.

I knew I wouldn't be going anyway. I knew I would be up studying 'x'.

I spent the money on the best fastest high end usb sticks I could lay my dirty mits on.
Alas, it was all in vain. They gave up faster than I could back them up. And boy, did I back them up. I backed them up like a mofo. To no avail. They all gave up the ghost, whenever they worked at all.

Weeks, months, sometimes years of work were lost, and no matter how much I neglected my family and no matter how much I studied, they always led me down the garden path, and betrayed me at the last moment.

But am I bitter?

Not much!

:-)

There is no free lunch in this world. One must work hard and sacrifice to get ahead. I believe that I did not give enough. My family and friends were a poor sacrifice. I should have offered my first born. This was my greatest mistake. I know now. This should have been done.

Sure, I could do what other mugs do, ask on computer internet forums. Risk opprobrium. But even though I ventured into those harsh waters, something kept driving me back. I made the mistaken belief, that I could do it all by myself. I will never make that mistake again.

Anyone that learns Linux will need a buddy. I never had one. I have three years down the pan to show for it. That'll show me. I think sometimes of going back, but it makes me feel like a gambler that is just throwing good money after bad, after betting the ranch and selling the kids. My friends will think less of me.

I doubt I will ever get this f**king linux install going. If I was clever enough, I would do one of those Hitler sketches where he finds out that Mint install everyone was raving about is not working out so well.

Oh, someone has already done it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SOOhATEMGI

Not in English, maybe someone can say how true it is.

I just have very very bad luck with Linux. I am ready to cut off one of my fingers to the Linux god, but she/he is a cruel mistress/master. I doubt it would be enough. Linux devours your soul.


:borg:
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"One never loves enough" - R.D. Laing
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KVRAF
 
3402 posts since 1 Aug, 2005, from where butter flies
 

Postby Zombie Queen; Sat Jun 07, 2014 5:36 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

glokraw wrote:Let's say you find an older, but high quality laptop, sold dirt cheap.
Rapture and z3ta run fine in reaper/wine


Most likely older lappy has Windows onboard already, so why to emulate it on Linux, when you can run it right away? Anyway in such case I'd go Win XP. Linux could be a choice for browsing net old laptop, but then, people are using their phones to do that and there's Linux there already.
KVRAF
 
4995 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:32 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

It's simple to have 5 or 6 desktops in linux, since laptop screens
are tiny, if it were me, I would run hydrogen drum machine on one,
a rich layered multitimbral yoshimi synth on one,
use a couple for rakarrack multi-fx panels, another for a few Calf fx,
put reaper on one, for rapture and z3ta, or run them with fsthost
on their own screens, all very uncluttered.

Also, Elightenment is a great system gui, fast, low cpu, easy deep customization,
lots of very elegant and functional themes. Lets you be the CEO
of your own computer, instead of Ballmer, who they at least allowed
to exit the building walking from his office, instead of flying from the roof.
Decisions, decisions...but he'll certainly do better at basketball,
than surfaces!
Cheers
KVRAF
 
3744 posts since 13 Oct, 2009

Postby ghettosynth; Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:37 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

glokraw wrote:
Zombie Queen wrote:No Adobe CS for Linux, no Sonar for Linux. It pretty much stops me.

That perfectly sensible, and many people have similar scenarios.

Let's say you find an older, but high quality laptop, sold dirt cheap.
Rapture and z3ta run fine in reaper/wine, you could have a cheap but
useful setup to leave with someone you sometimes visit,
parents/grandparents, inlaws, siblings/kids., old friends/bandmates,
and have something fun to do when others were pre-occupied by things
of little interest to you.


You're looking for a problem to go with your solution. This is almost always a problem.
KVRAF
 
4995 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Postby glokraw; Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:27 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

No, problem, no solution, just proposing a use for old gear,
an alternative to the endless either/or discussions, most frequently
existing between mac and windows users.
Why would someone give up windows apps, just because they bought a Mac?
That is softened a bit by bootcamps, and wine for Macs, but this is
an era where musicians need not lock themselves out of anything.
The linux items I mentioned earlier, would be expensive to replace,
with commercial equivalents, and are a good foundation for creating
music.
Cheers
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KVRAF
 
1617 posts since 5 Nov, 2009
 

Postby arkmabat; Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:11 pm Re: What stops you switching to Linux?

Essentially this is like a Sonar vs Reaper argument?
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