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One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline (Voting Done: Z.Prime Wins!)

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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BK1
KVRer
 
15 posts since 17 Nov, 2012, from Michigan

Postby BK1; Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:47 pm Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

https://soundcloud.com/tincantelephone-1/bk1-tincantelephone-the-imperial-army-goes-to-war-osc-64-swierk

Created for OSC 64 in Reaper using the following:

17 instances of Swierk

Omniverb
Niveau Filter
EasyQ
ModernExpander
Classic Reverb
MHorse P3
Ferox
ModernAmplifier
ModernLimiter
3 instances of SuperCharger
3 instances of RubyTube
sizemore0409
KVRer
 
24 posts since 16 May, 2014

Postby sizemore0409; Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:11 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

Do we not yet have a KVR OSC 64 Soundcloud page? At this time are we only posting our track on our personal Soundcloud page, then announcing the submission here in the forum?

thanks,
Andy
z.prime
KVRian
 
637 posts since 28 Sep, 2011

Postby z.prime; Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:29 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

sizemore0409 wrote:Do we not yet have a KVR OSC 64 Soundcloud page? At this time are we only posting our track on our personal Soundcloud page, then announcing the submission here in the forum?

There is. It swaps between 2 groups each month:

soundcloud.com/groups/kvr-one-synth-challenge

(The other is: soundcloud.com/groups/kvr-one-synth-challenge-1)
sizemore0409
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24 posts since 16 May, 2014

Postby sizemore0409; Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:37 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

thanks, z.prime!
sizemore0409
KVRer
 
24 posts since 16 May, 2014

Postby sizemore0409; Tue Jun 24, 2014 12:04 pm Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

This track is made up of 24 instances of SWIERK, spread across 4 movements. I was quite pleased with the presets, which for the most part needed little or no tweaking to get the sounds I wanted. The main exception was in the 3rd movement, wherein for the Lead instrument I made significant adjustments to preset 21, making it a pure square wave, reducing it to a single voice and turning off Oscillator 1.

The presets I used are #4, 7, and 8 (all bass), 21, 22, and 24 (all Leads), 44, 45 and 48 (pads), 55, 64, and 66 (FX), 67 (snare), 71 (Hats), 72 (Kick), 82 (Hangdrum), 101 (Bell Dots), 102 (Arp Glass Lead). Many thanks to Kraftraum for a number of these presets.

Here are the free effects I used in my VST host (LMMS):
TAP Sigmoid Booster
DensitymkII
LADSPA Echo Delay Line (max delay 1 second --- different timing to each channel)
LADSPA Echo Delay Line (max delay 0.1 sec --- different timing to each channel)
TAP Stereo Echo
Stock panning in the automation editor
Volume automation editor

And I used these free effects in Audacity:
mda Round Pan
ADopplerEn (a panning effect which I really like)
Adjustable Fade
Reverb (multiple settings)
Amplify
Echo
Notch Filter
Hard Limiter
Studio Fade Out

I created some interesting sounds in Audacity by using the ADopplerEn panning effect to treat a mash-up of presets 21 & 64 (appears in 1st and 4th movements), and also presets 55 & 102 (appears in 3rd movement).

I hope you enjoy my track, which I have named “Journey to the Center of the Swierk”.
https://soundcloud.com/a-sizemore/sizem ... the-swierk
BK1
KVRer
 
15 posts since 17 Nov, 2012, from Michigan

Postby BK1; Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:13 pm Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

https://soundcloud.com/tincantelephone-1/bk1-tincantelephone-the-imperial-army-goes-to-war-osc-64-swierk

Hopefully the final tweak and upload after some good advice from z.prime and DoctorBob!
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Chris-S
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342 posts since 10 Nov, 2013, from Germany

Postby Chris-S; Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:00 pm Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

sizemore0409 wrote:Notch Filter

Isn't this against the rules?
drunken jesus
KVRist
 
81 posts since 9 Feb, 2009

Postby drunken jesus; Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:28 pm Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

Thinking about entering this as the OSC have intrigued me in the past but I never really had the time, one quick question do you guys find it easier to write your songs while using the synth or to write the song first then start working on the synth? I think writing a rough sketch/outline of a track on my typical samplers/synths of choice then moving the composition to Swierk would provide a good result
http://drunk3nj3sus.blogspot.com/ < My blog
Free samples, presets, etc.
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psmacmur
KVRist
 
114 posts since 29 Jul, 2013, from Toronto

Postby psmacmur; Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:39 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

Writing the song first is probably brilliant; I've never thought of that. My interest is always first and foremost synths, and songwriting a distant second. I also never find it easy nor ever place well in the results, and poor songwriting is definitely part of that. The only caveat is that it is easier to play to the synths strengths than to wrestle the synth into generating a sound that matches your idea, so you might want to spend some time with Swierk up front, then write, then come back to it. Just my 2 cents.
drunken jesus
KVRist
 
81 posts since 9 Feb, 2009

Postby drunken jesus; Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:41 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

^thanks that's good advice, I use synths quite often for leads, basses, & pads but I rarely write a whole song with strictly synths unless it's a chiptune remix or something so it'll be something a lot different to me

what made me really wonder is one of the joints from the last challenge that really impressed me was a smooth/funky clavinet based track, it would've sounded good with synths, samples, or a mix of both
http://drunk3nj3sus.blogspot.com/ < My blog
Free samples, presets, etc.
bh9090
KVRist
 
103 posts since 7 Dec, 2006, from Richmond, VA, USA

Postby bh9090; Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:09 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

My entry
https://soundcloud.com/hennessey/tautology

21 Instances of Swierk
Reaper (Work PC (shhh) done at lunchtimes w\headphones) - Reaper's automation is :tu: !!
ReaEQ, Camel Crusher, Tal Reverb2, Tal-Dub,Epic Verb, ReaComp, ReaDelay, Signaldust 4L, AD Rough Rider

peace
z.prime
KVRian
 
637 posts since 28 Sep, 2011

Postby z.prime; Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:40 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

drunken jesus wrote:Thinking about entering this as the OSC have intrigued me in the past but I never really had the time, one quick question do you guys find it easier to write your songs while using the synth or to write the song first then start working on the synth? I think writing a rough sketch/outline of a track on my typical samplers/synths of choice then moving the composition to Swierk would provide a good result

I'm certainly less of a songwriter and more of a noisemaker, but I'd suggest making a track with the synth from the get-go. The only thing is that people have different desires and skill levels when it comes to programming synths. If you like designing sounds, then definitely start with the synth, get some decent sounds and make a track out of it. If you're not good at designing sounds, this contest is a way to improve tremendously at it.

But really, this contest is about making an awesome track with the synth, which includes all aspects: musicality/composition, sound design, mixing/mastering, and some degree of uniqueness. A great song does well in all these categories; a great composition may still sound like crap if the sound design is poor or doesn't match what you're going for with something composed with a different set of sounds. And the overall polish of the track is important, too - it can take a masterpiece and make it sound tiny or otherwise undesirable.

Anyway, just my 2 cents. Look forward to hearing something if you decide to enter! :)
Pulse Width Modulation
KVRist
 
121 posts since 4 Feb, 2012, from Billings, MT - USA

Postby Pulse Width Modulation; Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:56 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

drunken jesus wrote:Thinking about entering this as the OSC have intrigued me in the past but I never really had the time, one quick question do you guys find it easier to write your songs while using the synth or to write the song first then start working on the synth? I think writing a rough sketch/outline of a track on my typical samplers/synths of choice then moving the composition to Swierk would provide a good result

Everyone seems to approach that differently and maybe that's one reason why there is so much variety in OSC! Check out the track that doctorbob made for OSC VOPM last month, titled "The Greek Gods". He composed the orchestral piece before he built the synth patches. After the VOPM Contest was over, he posted a version of it on the forum where he used a modern orchestral sample set on the same sequence. He might have some insight. I personally love building synth patches and enjoy having the sounds of the synth inspire the music. In fact this month, I'm even working on a more live improvised recording, instead of sequencing and overdubbing tracks. One thing you might find about these contests is that it is a great place to experiment with different ideas and try new things. I'd love to hear what you come up with!
bh9090
KVRist
 
103 posts since 7 Dec, 2006, from Richmond, VA, USA

Postby bh9090; Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:10 am Re: One-Synth-Challenge 64: Swierk by Saltline *Calling all synth wizards!*

drunken jesus wrote:Thinking about entering this as the OSC have intrigued me in the past but I never really had the time, one quick question do you guys find it easier to write your songs while using the synth or to write the song first then start working on the synth? I think writing a rough sketch/outline of a track on my typical samplers/synths of choice then moving the composition to Swierk would provide a good result


I'll add. Electronic music has a lot to do with timbre, so composing using sounds that won't ultimately be in the piece seems odd to me and a lot of indirect work. Usually the sounds propel were the piece goes. What you already have sound-wise in a track dictates what you can do next. So, if I write something on the piano, the piano usually end up in the track. When I try it with a different sound it just doesn't work. That's just me though.
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