The first thing you went to do is contradict what I said 'modes are not based in chords'. And you really ran with that.tapper mike wrote: My hope is for the explorers looking for different directions to take their music and offer them suggestions for exploration, not flatheads to beat into submission and obedience.
I just want someone to know what a mode is, and not confuse it with harmonic function. It's not about making anyone obey me. We're going to do this dance into perpetuity like we're in hell, evidently. Your confusion does not have to be the next person's confusion is all.
You really think an EDM person is going to springboard off what you're doing in this thread? But like I said, when it's useful it is and I gave you that, there could be all kind of people reading this. That's one reason I feel it has to be said: it is not useful to confuse major with the modes, or key with mode, or ii-V-I with mode.
Look man, you know what modal jazz is right? You know that it was all about getting away from ii-V-I show tunes basis for lines, don't you? But no, you have to mix the two things in, like you're just very obtuse. You go with all the people that came before you using modes as scales - which I totally get, no worries - to say more than that, "modes can come from chords". No, the thing in itself is the thing in itself, these particular usages are not the definition of the thing. Modes are there, self-sufficient. This is a point of basic logic, the thing in itself.
If you would just relent and call the things what they are, SCALES, I'm good. But the topic is 'Your thoughts on modes'. You do not have thoughts on modes, you have thoughts on other things.<-This is a true statement.
I do not come to this through school. Very little was relayed to me about modes in the school I was in, it was medieval church music, it applies differently in a number of ways.
I was a modal player naturally, I gravitated to rock and jazz that did that, and I found Indian classical music at around age 15. It interests me. I think it's as valuable as you think your interests are. I would like you to grant people the space for it rather than twist it out of recognition so you can have the floor.
IN SUM: There is no point in all of this extraneous lingo to deal with a chord borrowed essentially from a minor type of mode.
If it's Aeolian it is, and it's simple to make a useful distinction.