Waves Bass Rider - opinions?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7880 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
Anyone use it much? What kind of material.
I guess I like a really big sound, lots of spectrum filled. Looks like this might help me tame some levels, easily, but Maybe I should just ride the faders myself? Master the use of compression?
I confess I have exited the creative stage and entered lazy.
I guess I like a really big sound, lots of spectrum filled. Looks like this might help me tame some levels, easily, but Maybe I should just ride the faders myself? Master the use of compression?
I confess I have exited the creative stage and entered lazy.
..what goes around comes around..
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- KVRian
- 505 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
I hate this type of plugins.It's just toy...You can do it with compressors.It's hard to get same result but you can learn and understand "dynamics".
Use traditional ways for mixing.Play with knobs and feel sound before processing it.
TO BE HUMAN OR TO BE HUMANOID!
Use traditional ways for mixing.Play with knobs and feel sound before processing it.
TO BE HUMAN OR TO BE HUMANOID!
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- KVRAF
- 2550 posts since 13 Mar, 2004
Are you dealing with recorded "real" bass ?
That's a thing where I could see a use for bass rider, but for programmed synth-basses you have all the level control already at the "creating" stage (envelopes, velocity) so I wouldn't see much use for it.
That's a thing where I could see a use for bass rider, but for programmed synth-basses you have all the level control already at the "creating" stage (envelopes, velocity) so I wouldn't see much use for it.
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- KVRAF
- 1822 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Use it all the time on bass guitar and a compressor will not give you the exact same result for obvious reasons. If you really want to spend hours automating volume then go ahead, this will get you there most of the time, also Mike Shipley was a great proponent of leveling before a compressor so as to use it for its sonic characteristics. This works great for that, Bass Rider into a CLA 76 is a great combo.B.A.Tech. wrote:I hate this type of plugins.It's just toy...You can do it with compressors.It's hard to get same result but you can learn and understand "dynamics".
Use traditional ways for mixing.Play with knobs and feel sound before processing it.
TO BE HUMAN OR TO BE HUMANOID!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7880 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
hmm, thanks, ladies & gents.
My conclusion is that I am indeed lazy and need to suck it up and adjust the levels otherwise instead of outsourcing to Waves.
My conclusion is that I am indeed lazy and need to suck it up and adjust the levels otherwise instead of outsourcing to Waves.
..what goes around comes around..
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 14 May, 2008
Bass Rider doesn't have anything to do with compression...It wasn't created to replace compression at all.
All it does is to ride the volume fader automatically, so the bass tracks can maintain an even volume level in relation to all other tracks, all across the mix...In other words, it automates volume automation.
Anyway, I don't use it very much but I've been playing with its brother, Vocal Rider. It's a very useful plugin. It isn't perfect, but you can write down the automation to your DAW's automation track and edit it for better results.
It's a time saver, that's for sure.
All it does is to ride the volume fader automatically, so the bass tracks can maintain an even volume level in relation to all other tracks, all across the mix...In other words, it automates volume automation.
Anyway, I don't use it very much but I've been playing with its brother, Vocal Rider. It's a very useful plugin. It isn't perfect, but you can write down the automation to your DAW's automation track and edit it for better results.
It's a time saver, that's for sure.
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- KVRist
- 262 posts since 26 Jan, 2013 from TX
Hey if it saves time, I wouldn't say it's "lazy" to use it.ouroboros wrote:hmm, thanks, ladies & gents.
My conclusion is that I am indeed lazy and need to suck it up and adjust the levels otherwise instead of outsourcing to Waves.
Bass Rider is indeed a time-saver -- it's especially good on DI bass guitar -- and at its current sale price (today with the $50 coupon) it's a no-brainer, IMHO.
Cheers,
Eddie
The future exists in all directions.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
You're NEVER going to get it as good a price as JRR shop has it now.
http://blowout.jrrshop.com/waves?dir=as ... rder=price
So, when you log in, use that price (remember NO CAT says "no" to seeing the price w/o logging in ) then you can get 50 bucks off by generating that code and walla, bass rider for less than you'd ever expect. You'll not ever even find one in the marketplace that cheap.
http://blowout.jrrshop.com/waves?dir=as ... rder=price
So, when you log in, use that price (remember NO CAT says "no" to seeing the price w/o logging in ) then you can get 50 bucks off by generating that code and walla, bass rider for less than you'd ever expect. You'll not ever even find one in the marketplace that cheap.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7880 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
No I am resisting
If I'm honest Im looking for a distraction.
(and really more interested in MaxxBass !)
If I'm honest Im looking for a distraction.
(and really more interested in MaxxBass !)
..what goes around comes around..