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Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Effects discussion

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KVRAF
 
7850 posts since 16 Apr, 2003, from -on the outside looking in
 

Postby ouroboros; Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:43 pm Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

Anyone use it much? What kind of material.
I guess I like a really big sound, lots of spectrum filled. Looks like this might help me tame some levels, easily, but Maybe I should just ride the faders myself? Master the use of compression?

I confess I have exited the creative stage and entered lazy.
KVRian
 
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Postby B.A.Tech.; Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:12 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

I hate this type of plugins.It's just toy...You can do it with compressors.It's hard to get same result but you can learn and understand "dynamics".

Use traditional ways for mixing.Play with knobs and feel sound before processing it.

TO BE HUMAN OR TO BE HUMANOID!
KVRAF
 
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Postby No_Use; Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:25 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

Are you dealing with recorded "real" bass ?

That's a thing where I could see a use for bass rider, but for programmed synth-basses you have all the level control already at the "creating" stage (envelopes, velocity) so I wouldn't see much use for it.
KVRAF
 
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Postby hibidy; Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:37 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

I like it. I use it for the bass stuff I record. The key is to listen to it in a mix.
KVRist
 
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Postby Breval; Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:14 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

I have it in my bass gtr. fx chain.
Works well, a little adjustment & sometimes you don't need to use a compressor at all.
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Postby VitaminD; Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:05 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

Seems to be better attuned to bass guitar over synth bass.. esp basslines played without much movement..
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KVRist
 
254 posts since 24 Feb, 2005

Postby woodsdenis; Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:28 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

B.A.Tech. wrote:I hate this type of plugins.It's just toy...You can do it with compressors.It's hard to get same result but you can learn and understand "dynamics".

Use traditional ways for mixing.Play with knobs and feel sound before processing it.

TO BE HUMAN OR TO BE HUMANOID!


Use it all the time on bass guitar and a compressor will not give you the exact same result for obvious reasons. If you really want to spend hours automating volume then go ahead, this will get you there most of the time, also Mike Shipley was a great proponent of leveling before a compressor so as to use it for its sonic characteristics. This works great for that, Bass Rider into a CLA 76 is a great combo.
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KVRAF
 
40379 posts since 20 Dec, 2005

Postby hibidy; Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:54 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

I like that idea (though for me it's NI's dbx160) Maybe I'm just wacky, but seems like when you do that the comp can add more character w/o the transients being squished.
KVRAF
 
7850 posts since 16 Apr, 2003, from -on the outside looking in
 

Postby ouroboros; Thu Jun 26, 2014 11:13 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

hmm, thanks, ladies & gents.
My conclusion is that I am indeed lazy and need to suck it up and adjust the levels otherwise instead of outsourcing to Waves.
KVRist
 
75 posts since 14 May, 2008

Postby RafaelMorgan; Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:39 am Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

Bass Rider doesn't have anything to do with compression...It wasn't created to replace compression at all.

All it does is to ride the volume fader automatically, so the bass tracks can maintain an even volume level in relation to all other tracks, all across the mix...In other words, it automates volume automation.

Anyway, I don't use it very much but I've been playing with its brother, Vocal Rider. It's a very useful plugin. It isn't perfect, but you can write down the automation to your DAW's automation track and edit it for better results.

It's a time saver, that's for sure.
KVRist
 
138 posts since 25 Jan, 2013, from TX

Postby Eddie TX; Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:30 am Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

ouroboros wrote:hmm, thanks, ladies & gents.
My conclusion is that I am indeed lazy and need to suck it up and adjust the levels otherwise instead of outsourcing to Waves.

Hey if it saves time, I wouldn't say it's "lazy" to use it.

Bass Rider is indeed a time-saver -- it's especially good on DI bass guitar -- and at its current sale price (today with the $50 coupon) it's a no-brainer, IMHO.

Cheers,
Eddie
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KVRAF
 
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Postby hibidy; Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:02 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

You're NEVER going to get it as good a price as JRR shop has it now.

http://blowout.jrrshop.com/waves?dir=as ... rder=price

So, when you log in, use that price (remember NO CAT says "no" to seeing the price w/o logging in :hihi: ) then you can get 50 bucks off by generating that code and walla, bass rider for less than you'd ever expect. You'll not ever even find one in the marketplace that cheap.
KVRAF
 
7850 posts since 16 Apr, 2003, from -on the outside looking in
 

Postby ouroboros; Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:39 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

love jrrshop, thanks!
KVRAF
 
40379 posts since 20 Dec, 2005

Postby hibidy; Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:12 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

So......did you change your mind? :hihi:
KVRAF
 
7850 posts since 16 Apr, 2003, from -on the outside looking in
 

Postby ouroboros; Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:21 pm Re: Waves Bass Rider - opinions?

No I am resisting :lol:
If I'm honest Im looking for a distraction.
(and really more interested in MaxxBass !)
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