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Suger Bytes releases Egoist

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KVRist
 
180 posts since 14 Apr, 2008, from Berlin

Postby resistent; Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:57 pm Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

Seems to be a cool plugin. Can anyone who tested this plugin say how samples get imported into Egoist? Is drag and drop possible? I hope so, because this is missing in so much VST which use samples and I think it's often a lack in the workflow.

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KVRian
 
511 posts since 14 Jun, 2006, from Espoo / Finland

Postby filter303; Fri Jun 27, 2014 4:31 pm Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

Drag and drop is possible, I just tried it with Reaper 4.

I love the egoist slicer and I wish it was available as a separate plugin (for reduced price or course). Egoist seemed like it was a bit too complicated for me first. After I spent 30mins with it I realized how good the user interface is and how easy it is to use.

It's a little bit disappointing that egoist only have a single pair of stereo output.

Does anyone know if the samples are saved with the project? It's a must have feature for me as I really hate to see any kind of "missing samples" notifications. I can't try how it works because the demo cannot load user patches. Perhaps someone with the full version could try importing a sample and move it into another location to see if the sample is saved with the project?
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542 posts since 3 Sep, 2009, from Vancouver

Postby awol9000; Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:34 pm Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

This is really fun to mess about with.

+1 for having a GUI big enough for me to see.

I'll have to evaluate it more before I buy but $99 is a nice price.
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KVRian
 
621 posts since 26 Mar, 2004, from Surrey, UK
   

Postby mcnelson; Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:10 pm Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

awol9000 wrote:...but $99 is a nice price.


It is - much nicer than 99 euros / $135.

Stupid EU taxes :(
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KVRist
 
34 posts since 8 Apr, 2005

Postby solar28; Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:55 pm Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

Careful -- Sugar Bytes is usually pretty solid but I feel gimped after buying this. Should have waited for patches.

1 - Bug: Egoist doesn't sync w/ your host. It's tempo matches, but unlike every other sequencer plugin on the market -- it doesn't start/stop in sync with host. Only to it's own play button. This means it's useless to play/slice loops in time with your sequencer.

2 - Bug: Egoist advertises playing slices with your keyboard. But you can't. The same keys that trigger slices ALSO switches the patterns. DOH!!

3 - Wish: multi-out! The bass and beat sequences that go along w/ the plugin should output to their own channels. One "could" bounce each piece separately, IF it were synced w/ the host :) But it would be much more powerful this way.

This is more like version 0.8. Those 2 bugs make it unusable except as a fun idea generator in stand alone mode.
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91 posts since 11 Mar, 2014

Postby lectrixboogaloo; Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:39 pm Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

Sendy wrote:First mess around with the demo. Decided to record it.

http://soundcloud.com/sendy/ego-acid-gear-demo

It's quite fun. This is a "Hammerhead" for the next generation, I suppose.


:D Reminds me of Tuareg. Except not as fun...
KVRian
 
706 posts since 8 Sep, 2009

Postby elassi; Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:04 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

solar28 wrote:2 - Bug: Egoist advertises playing slices with your keyboard. But you can't. The same keys that trigger slices ALSO switches the patterns. DOH!!


Press the keyboard icon in the bottom left corner. ;)

+1 for multi-out and if possible for the audio recording, read: record three independant tracks on demand.
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KVRAF
 
2140 posts since 12 Nov, 2009

Postby cyphersuit; Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:08 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

I love my Sugar Bytes products but in my experience they only fix bugs with updates and do not add features. This is the reason for me to wait on the first big update on Egoist. Also if i understood this right Vengeance is working on a Loop plugin too and they patch in customer requests like crazy.
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KVRian
 
706 posts since 8 Sep, 2009

Postby elassi; Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:40 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

cyphersuit wrote:I love my Sugar Bytes products but in my experience they only fix bugs with updates and do not add features.


If I recall right they added midi export to Consequence which was a huge feature upgrade.
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KVRAF
 
7648 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:02 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

solar28 wrote: Egoist doesn't sync w/ your host. It's tempo matches, but unlike every other sequencer plugin on the market -- it doesn't start/stop in sync with host. Only to it's own play button. This means it's useless to play/slice loops in time with your sequencer.

That is a major downer, but should be fixable with a patch
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KVRian
 
553 posts since 2 Dec, 2004, from North Wales

Postby SLiC; Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:33 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

I think I will wait for he inevitable iPad version, this would actually be a useful sketch pad on an ipad, not sure how much much I would use it in the studio, cubase has beat mash and I have turnado, live and a bunch of max based loop mashers, think I have it covered....but I will take the ipad version on release...
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Postby Sendy; Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:33 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

In all fairness, Cyclop had a few teething problems and they were ironed out within a month or so. I'm not bothered about the sync thing since I like to either trigger the loops with MIDI (which lets you chop them around like they were samples) or just sample the whole thing and abuse the shit out of it.

It can be annoying when I've got a two-pattern loop going and I want to tweak filter cutoff of the bass, it keeps jumping between two filter settings for the two patterns. This is awesome, because it lets you sequence between different sounds, but it's also not awesome, because sometimes you want the same, continuously variable sound for both patterns. There may be a way around it that I haven't discovered in the manual yet.

Either way, it's a really fun little sketchpad. I honestly wanted to hate it, or at least not want to buy it, but it's suprisingly deep and open for abuse :)
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KVRist
 
34 posts since 8 Apr, 2005

Postby solar28; Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:35 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

elassi wrote:
solar28 wrote:2 - Bug: Egoist advertises playing slices with your keyboard. But you can't. The same keys that trigger slices ALSO switches the patterns. DOH!!


Press the keyboard icon in the bottom left corner. ;)

+1 for multi-out and if possible for the audio recording, read: record three independant tracks on demand.


That's the bug elassi. The keyboard icon is pressed. And if you "click" the key it plays the slice. If you play the same key on your midi keyboard, it both plays the slice AND switches the pattern.
KVRian
 
706 posts since 8 Sep, 2009

Postby elassi; Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:58 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

Ah, I see. Indeed just tested it with the mouse. Sorry, solar82. :)
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KVRAF
 
7648 posts since 20 Jan, 2008, from Down on the farm

Postby Numanoid; Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:36 am Re: Suger Bytes releases Egoist

solar28 wrote:That's the bug elassi. The keyboard icon is pressed. And if you "click" the key it plays the slice. If you play the same key on your midi keyboard, it both plays the slice AND switches the pattern.

Would it be possible to set up the plug so that input from the midi keyboard is on a different midi-channel?
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