Two very common sounds that i have no idea how to make

[9white5]

Hey guys, i feel like i've had a decent grasp of synthesis for a few months now, but there are two sounds that i just have no idea how to make, and theyre used very often in modern dance music. This has been very frustrating for me, i dont even know where to start with them

The first one is used in countless dubstep tracks, happens for the first time at exactly 0:40 (Its that lead that bends downward, it only goes for about a second.) Theres a lot going on in the track so other times that it occurs are 0:57, 1:00, 1:03, 1:06.. you get the idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXm0ewKdJ6s

The second one is a bit more complicated, and this one completely loses me. Its popular in a lot of modern trance, sounds to me like a kind of distortion but i cant even get close.

Sound is at 0.54, 0.57, 1.01, 1.04
https://soundcloud.com/unseendimensions ... ime-unseen

I know these two sounds are probably very simple but despite my best efforts i dont know how to make them, I'd really appreciate any advice on how they were made. Thanks very much

[brekehan]

I'm a noob, but I'll guess just to try to give back some. I might be completely wrong.

1st: All I can identify is he pitch bends something close to saws or pulses. :/
2nd: I recognize that grit. It happens to me all the time when playing with FM. It might have additional distortion, but in FM , the more you modulate an operator the more it gets gritty like that. I think that something close to that sound could be made in FM8 with some envelopes and the maybe its mouth. If I identified the correct sound you were trying to identify. Its like a buzzy machine sound.

[9white5]

Ahh thank you very much on the second one, I feel very stupid now haha

[Any Good Username?]

First one... Savant uses synthesizer 'Harmor' (image line) to create most of his sounds. And i think it might be resampled or could be made...

http://youtu.be/SyXMhf0NbOU?t=2m6s

he's style is kinda weird...