Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Hello,
Native Instruments Absynth has a great Mutate and Random feature. Does Camel Alchemy also have this? Which other Virtual Instruments have a Mutate and Random function? Are they as good or better than Absynth’s?
How about a Preset-Morph (in-between function) that will combine two presets to get a new one. Do any Virtual Instrument have a Preset-Morph capability?
Native Instruments Absynth has a great Mutate and Random feature. Does Camel Alchemy also have this? Which other Virtual Instruments have a Mutate and Random function? Are they as good or better than Absynth’s?
How about a Preset-Morph (in-between function) that will combine two presets to get a new one. Do any Virtual Instrument have a Preset-Morph capability?
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
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- KVRian
- 835 posts since 28 Apr, 2014 from Texas
FM8 has the preset morph capability between 4 different presets if I am not mistaken.
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- KVRian
- 1092 posts since 9 Apr, 2012
Lots of VSTs coming with a randomize function but if you wanna have the ultimate random thingy then maybe stuff like Tobybear's Mini Host which is a VST host and can randomize every VST.
Sebastian
Regards- preset randomizer with script support and mutate option
Sebastian
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Voice303,
I will check out FM8.
Sebastian,
I have Bidule http://www.plogue.com/ and did not have the luck to produce interesting and usable results. Tobybear's Mini Host has preset randomizer with script support and mutate option. Will have to check it out and compare it to Bidule. In any case I am looking for an easy to implement and easy to use mutate/random component in a VSTi. It seems it is a Stand Alone Host or is it also a VST/VSTi?
The reason I asked for a great Mutate and Random feature as the one in Absynth because as of up to now I have not seen one as good as this on another VSTi. Perhaps I should have capitalized GREAT. Meaning great as apposed to not-so-great.
The Absynth GREAT Mutate and Random feature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCVBJ_tlHQ
The results of this mutate/random features produces interesting and usable results.
Are there other VSTi's with full featured Mutate and Random control? Does Alchemy have such a feature? If a Preset-Morpher is included that will be a plus.
I will check out FM8.
Sebastian,
I have Bidule http://www.plogue.com/ and did not have the luck to produce interesting and usable results. Tobybear's Mini Host has preset randomizer with script support and mutate option. Will have to check it out and compare it to Bidule. In any case I am looking for an easy to implement and easy to use mutate/random component in a VSTi. It seems it is a Stand Alone Host or is it also a VST/VSTi?
The reason I asked for a great Mutate and Random feature as the one in Absynth because as of up to now I have not seen one as good as this on another VSTi. Perhaps I should have capitalized GREAT. Meaning great as apposed to not-so-great.
The Absynth GREAT Mutate and Random feature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCVBJ_tlHQ
The results of this mutate/random features produces interesting and usable results.
Are there other VSTi's with full featured Mutate and Random control? Does Alchemy have such a feature? If a Preset-Morpher is included that will be a plus.
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Native Instruments Kore 2 (handles up to 8 morph points - like Alchemy) - for any plugin or combination of plugins.Kalamata Kid wrote: How about a Preset-Morph (in-between function) that will combine two presets to get a new one. Do any Virtual Instrument have a Preset-Morph capability?
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- KVRian
- 1222 posts since 2 Dec, 2008 from Finland
There's something called Morf: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5660135
It appears it's the same developer as http://ctrlr.org/
It appears it's the same developer as http://ctrlr.org/
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
Reviewing this and other threads I am compiling a list of VSTi’s with a random/mutate function.
Synth or Sampler VSTi with built-in random/mutate function:
Absynth – Is this the one to beat? I have this and the random/mutate is fantastic!
FM8 – It has a decent random/mutate feature but nowhere close to the one in Absynth.
Oatmeal http://togeostudios.com/ts-blog/free-re ... sti-synth/
Synplant
Gladiator
Zebra
microtonicVSTforx also does preset-morph
Fruity Loops
Massive
Reaktor
Virsyn synths
Does Alchemy have a random/mutate feature. Is it as good as Absynth’s?
MIDI random/mutate function to control a VSTi
Plogue Bidule
Minihost
Energly XT 1.4
Chainer http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
Morf: viewtopic.php?p=5660135
Other similar threads:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=283752
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5518447
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4257521
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5660135
Perhaps another thread can be devoted to random/mutate of VST FX and tablet apps.
Synth or Sampler VSTi with built-in random/mutate function:
Absynth – Is this the one to beat? I have this and the random/mutate is fantastic!
FM8 – It has a decent random/mutate feature but nowhere close to the one in Absynth.
Oatmeal http://togeostudios.com/ts-blog/free-re ... sti-synth/
Synplant
Gladiator
Zebra
microtonicVSTforx also does preset-morph
Fruity Loops
Massive
Reaktor
Virsyn synths
Does Alchemy have a random/mutate feature. Is it as good as Absynth’s?
MIDI random/mutate function to control a VSTi
Plogue Bidule
Minihost
Energly XT 1.4
Chainer http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
Morf: viewtopic.php?p=5660135
Other similar threads:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=283752
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5518447
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4257521
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5660135
Perhaps another thread can be devoted to random/mutate of VST FX and tablet apps.
Last edited by Kalamata Kid on Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:53 am, edited 2 times in total.
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146
- KVRAF
- 9577 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
VSTforx
Randomise paramaters and controllable morph between 2 presets.
Fruity loops has had randomisation and hybridisation of plugin paramaters for a long time
Randomise paramaters and controllable morph between 2 presets.
Fruity loops has had randomisation and hybridisation of plugin paramaters for a long time
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- KVRian
- 983 posts since 9 Feb, 2013 from dallas tx
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- KVRist
- 50 posts since 25 Jan, 2005 from London
Cantabile has an excellent randomise option, I use it all the time for VSTs that don't come with their own.
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- KVRian
- 945 posts since 8 Dec, 2003 from Birmingham-ish, UK (Tamworth, but shhh!)
I use the hybridize feature of FLStudio sometimes...can be useful when you're feeling lazy to get a new sound. It doesn't "morph" betweent them, however. It also only allows it with plugins that report the rpesets to the host - so most modular synths are out, and also those that only have their own patch interface - which is many synths these days.
You can do preset morphing and randomising and hybridizing in Reaktor, btw.
You can do preset morphing and randomising and hybridizing in Reaktor, btw.
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- KVRAF
- 2121 posts since 10 Apr, 2002 from Saint Germain en Laye, France
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5810 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA
I updated the list. I only include VSTi's.Kalamata Kid wrote:Reviewing this and other threads I am compiling a list of VSTi’s with a random/mutate function.
Synth or Sampler VSTi with built-in random/mutate function:
Absynth – Is this the one to beat? I have this and the random/mutate is fantastic!
FM8 – It has a decent random/mutate feature but nowhere close to the one in Absynth.
Oatmeal http://togeostudios.com/ts-blog/free-re ... sti-synth/
Synplant
Gladiator
Zebra
microtonicVSTforx also does preset-morph
Fruity Loops
Massive
Reaktor
Does Alchemy have a random/mutate feature. Is it as good as Absynth’s?
MIDI random/mutate function to control a VSTi
Plogue Bidule
Minihost
Energly XT 1.4
Morf: viewtopic.php?p=5660135
Other similar threads:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=283752
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5518447
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4257521
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5660135
Perhaps another thread can be devoted to random/mutate of VST FX and tablet apps.
So, no-one has yet to dethrone Absynth as the best at random/mutate functions. How good it the Alchemy at this?
My Studio: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7760&p=7777146#p7777146