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Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

VST, AU, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion

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Kalamata Kid
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1341 posts since 26 Jul, 2001, from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Postby Kalamata Kid; Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:49 pm Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Hello,

Native Instruments Absynth has a great Mutate and Random feature. Does Camel Alchemy also have this? Which other Virtual Instruments have a Mutate and Random function? Are they as good or better than Absynth’s?

How about a Preset-Morph (in-between function) that will combine two presets to get a new one. Do any Virtual Instrument have a Preset-Morph capability?
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Voice303
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Postby Voice303; Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:04 pm Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

FM8 has the preset morph capability between 4 different presets if I am not mistaken.
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Halma
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Postby Halma; Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:54 pm Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Lots of VSTs coming with a randomize function but if you wanna have the ultimate random thingy then maybe stuff like Tobybear's Mini Host which is a VST host and can randomize every VST.

- preset randomizer with script support and mutate option


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Kalamata Kid
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Postby Kalamata Kid; Sat Jul 05, 2014 6:55 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Voice303,
I will check out FM8.

Sebastian,
I have Bidule http://www.plogue.com/ and did not have the luck to produce interesting and usable results. Tobybear's Mini Host has preset randomizer with script support and mutate option. Will have to check it out and compare it to Bidule. In any case I am looking for an easy to implement and easy to use mutate/random component in a VSTi. It seems it is a Stand Alone Host or is it also a VST/VSTi?

The reason I asked for a great Mutate and Random feature as the one in Absynth because as of up to now I have not seen one as good as this on another VSTi. Perhaps I should have capitalized GREAT. Meaning great as apposed to not-so-great.

The Absynth GREAT Mutate and Random feature:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtCVBJ_tlHQ
The results of this mutate/random features produces interesting and usable results.

Are there other VSTi's with full featured Mutate and Random control? Does Alchemy have such a feature? If a Preset-Morpher is included that will be a plus.
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aMUSEd
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Postby aMUSEd; Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:17 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Kalamata Kid wrote:How about a Preset-Morph (in-between function) that will combine two presets to get a new one. Do any Virtual Instrument have a Preset-Morph capability?


Native Instruments Kore 2 (handles up to 8 morph points - like Alchemy) - for any plugin or combination of plugins.
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DJMashbot
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Postby DJMashbot; Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:37 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

I know sonic charge's microtonic allows for morphing between two presets, although I think synplant might be more up your alley....
ras.s
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852 posts since 2 Dec, 2008, from Finland

Postby ras.s; Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:03 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

There's something called Morf: viewtopic.php?p=5660135

It appears it's the same developer as http://ctrlr.org/
Kalamata Kid
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Postby Kalamata Kid; Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:59 pm Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Reviewing this and other threads I am compiling a list of VSTi’s with a random/mutate function.

Synth or Sampler VSTi with built-in random/mutate function:
Absynth – Is this the one to beat? I have this and the random/mutate is fantastic!
FM8 – It has a decent random/mutate feature but nowhere close to the one in Absynth.
Oatmeal http://togeostudios.com/ts-blog/free-re ... sti-synth/
Synplant
Gladiator
Zebra
microtonicVSTforx also does preset-morph
Fruity Loops
Massive
Reaktor
Virsyn synths
Does Alchemy have a random/mutate feature. Is it as good as Absynth’s?

MIDI random/mutate function to control a VSTi
Plogue Bidule
Minihost
Energly XT 1.4
Chainer http://www.xlutop.com/html/chainer.html
Morf: viewtopic.php?p=5660135

Other similar threads:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=283752
viewtopic.php?p=5518447
viewtopic.php?p=4257521
viewtopic.php?p=5660135

Perhaps another thread can be devoted to random/mutate of VST FX and tablet apps.
Last edited by Kalamata Kid on Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:53 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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VariKusBrainZ
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Postby VariKusBrainZ; Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:26 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

VSTforx
Randomise paramaters and controllable morph between 2 presets.

Fruity loops has had randomisation and hybridisation of plugin paramaters for a long time
yessongs
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840 posts since 9 Feb, 2013, from dallas tx

Postby yessongs; Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:55 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

SONAR
CANTABILE
guvnor_p
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42 posts since 25 Jan, 2005, from London

Postby guvnor_p; Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:59 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Cantabile has an excellent randomise option, I use it all the time for VSTs that don't come with their own.
deastman
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Postby deastman; Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:03 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

NI Massive can do it do.
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The_Hidden_Goose
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Postby The_Hidden_Goose; Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:15 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

I use the hybridize feature of FLStudio sometimes...can be useful when you're feeling lazy to get a new sound. It doesn't "morph" betweent them, however. It also only allows it with plugins that report the rpesets to the host - so most modular synths are out, and also those that only have their own patch interface - which is many synths these days.

You can do preset morphing and randomising and hybridizing in Reaktor, btw.
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carrieres
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Postby carrieres; Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:27 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

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Kalamata Kid
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1341 posts since 26 Jul, 2001, from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Postby Kalamata Kid; Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:59 am Re: Mutate and Random and Preset-Morph

Kalamata Kid wrote:Reviewing this and other threads I am compiling a list of VSTi’s with a random/mutate function.

Synth or Sampler VSTi with built-in random/mutate function:
Absynth – Is this the one to beat? I have this and the random/mutate is fantastic!
FM8 – It has a decent random/mutate feature but nowhere close to the one in Absynth.
Oatmeal http://togeostudios.com/ts-blog/free-re ... sti-synth/
Synplant
Gladiator
Zebra
microtonicVSTforx also does preset-morph
Fruity Loops
Massive
Reaktor
Does Alchemy have a random/mutate feature. Is it as good as Absynth’s?

MIDI random/mutate function to control a VSTi
Plogue Bidule
Minihost
Energly XT 1.4
Morf: viewtopic.php?p=5660135

Other similar threads:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=283752
viewtopic.php?p=5518447
viewtopic.php?p=4257521
viewtopic.php?p=5660135

Perhaps another thread can be devoted to random/mutate of VST FX and tablet apps.


I updated the list. I only include VSTi's.

So, no-one has yet to dethrone Absynth as the best at random/mutate functions. How good it the Alchemy at this?
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