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Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX updates

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Ingonator
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:16 pm Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

HcDoom wrote:So, now is not the time to buy Largo for win 8 64bit S1 Pro v2.6.2? Rahter wait few more months to get it fixed by the Waldorf team?


This should be your own decison. If you want a 100% bug free 64-bit plugin maybe you should wait a bit. This also depends on which features you want to use and the GUI problem with the Arp pattern has no impact on the resulting sound.
Besides that i doubt that this will take some months for fixing. Some people already seem to be impatient if there is no new update for a week. We will take some time to fix as many remaining bugs as possible and bugs reported here are as important for that as bugs found by official testers.
Last edited by Ingonator on Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Waldorf Beta Forum Manager
"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
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Ingonator
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:31 pm Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

EvilDragon wrote:There is never "100% bug free" in software, Ingo ;)


This was more or less my point. If you want a totally bug free software you could wait forever with a purchase...
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"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
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c_voltage
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Postby c_voltage; Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:34 pm Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

Ingonator what about circular control ? :x :harp:
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Ingonator
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:45 pm Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

c_voltage wrote:Ingonator what about circular control ? :x :harp:


I already added a comment at my current list which i am working on.

The fact that i do not reply to everything here does not mean i dio not read it.
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"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
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c_voltage
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Postby c_voltage; Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:56 pm Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

Ingonator wrote:
c_voltage wrote:Ingonator what about circular control ? :x :harp:


I already added a comment at my current list which i am working on.

The fact that i do not reply to everything here does not mean i dio not read it.


:lol: ok. (I apologize, heavy atmosphere with some admixture of destruction)
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jalcide
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Postby jalcide; Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:35 pm Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

HcDoom wrote:So, now is not the time to buy Largo for win 8 64bit S1 Pro v2.6.2? Rahter wait few more months to get it fixed by the Waldorf team?


Even with the arp workflow hampered, I think it's still worth the purchase. I'll use my arp midi plugins with it, if needed.
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Ingonator
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Postby Ingonator; Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:44 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

As some more or less "exotic" hosts/DAWs like Numerology (Mac only) were mentioned here is a loist of hosts/DAWs that is officially supported by Waldorf and used for testing purposes (mostly the latest versions so i mention those here):

- Steinerg Cubase 7.5.20
- Ableton Live 9.1.3
- Apple Logic Pro 10.0.7
- PreSonus Studio One 2.6.2
- Avid Pro Tools 11.1.3 (+ 10.3.9)
- Cakewalk Sonar X3
- Cockos Reaper 4.7

Reaper was not planned but was added too. It is not a "major" DAW but quite poular (and i own it myself...).

I am currently using most of the hosts mentioned above, either as full versions or demo versions.
Of course not Logic as i don't own a Mac.


Ingo
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"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:00 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

At the new Waldorf forum someone reported a possible problem using multiple audio outputs with PPG Wave 3.V:
http://www.waldorf-music.info/kunena-en ... -panel#395

Anyone noticed a problem? If yes please tell me at which configuration (OS, host/DAW).

I tested it on Windows 7 64-bit with Live 9.1.3 64-bit (64-bit VST 2 plugin) and Studio One 2.6.2 64-bit (64-bit VST 3 plugin) without problems.

UPDATE:
Looks like a Mac and/or Digital Performer based problem:
I'm under LION 10.7.5. with Digital Performer 8.06 with PPG 3V 64 bits RC1 version



Ingo
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"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
samplerbanker
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Postby samplerbanker; Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:38 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

1.
When applying copy/paste Part in Largo (within a 64-bit Cubase 7.5 project, that includes 4 Largo VST 2.4 instances and one Largo VST3 instance) I got this error:

"An exception occured. Save your work and restart the application.
The exception was thrown because of the plugin: Largo"

So there is something wrong in case of use with multiple instances, even with mixed vst 2.4 and 3 Largos.

2.
Can someone help me in this Largo RC1 64-bit issue?

When I activate Part 2, 3 and 4 with, the sound of part 2 sounds hard pan left, the sound of part 3 hard pan right. When I activate multiple outputs they can sound stereo.

How does this work exactly?
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:47 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

samplerbanker wrote:2.
Can someone help me in this Largo RC1 64-bit issue?

When I activate Part 2, 3 and 4 with, the sound of part 2 sounds hard pan left, the sound of part 3 hard pan right. When I activate multiple outputs they can sound stereo.

How does this work exactly?


Hi this is a confirmed issue with VST 2, VST 3 and AAX in Cubase 7.5, Studio One 2.6 and Pro Tools.
For some strange reason it does not seem to happen with the VST 2 plugin in Live 9 and Reaper 4.7.

Concerning this issue i even had a "phone session" with th QA director of Waldorf with both of us checking the issue at their computers...

samplerbanker wrote:1.
When applying copy/paste Part in Largo (within a 64-bit Cubase 7.5 project, that includes 4 Largo VST 2.4 instances and one Largo VST3 instance) I got this error:

"An exception occured. Save your work and restart the application.
The exception was thrown because of the plugin: Largo"

So there is something wrong in case of use with multiple instances, even with mixed vst 2.4 and 3 Largos.


No idea at the moment. I would have to check this myself, maybe also on different hosts. I alraedy used copy/paste of a Part but not while having multiple instances. Is it possible to replicate the same bug multiple times?
BTW why did you combine VSt 2.4 instances with one VST 3 instance?

UPDATE for 1.):
Just did a test on Windows 7 64-bit with Cubase 7.5.20 64-bit.
I used 4 VST 2.4 instances and one VST 3 instance and then tried to copy/paste layers. Did the same with a VST 2 and the VSt 3 instance but no crash so far.
Waldorf Beta Forum Manager
"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
samplerbanker
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66 posts since 2 Sep, 2007

Postby samplerbanker; Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:29 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

The reason I combined the different VST version was just for testing purposes.
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Ingonator
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:37 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

samplerbanker wrote:The reason I combined the different VST version was just for testing purposes.


So were you able to replicate the problem? With my own tests i did not have a problem so far.
Waldorf Beta Forum Manager
"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
samplerbanker
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Postby samplerbanker; Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:14 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

Personally I could not reproduce it, but Daniel (WQA) seems managed to reproduce it already.
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Ingonator
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8248 posts since 21 Mar, 2008, from Hannover, Germany

Postby Ingonator; Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:33 am Re: Waldorf Largo + PPG Wave 3.V + Waldorf Edition: 64-bit/VST3/AAX update (Release Candidates released)

Ingonator wrote:At the new Waldorf forum someone reported a possible problem using multiple audio outputs with PPG Wave 3.V:
http://www.waldorf-music.info/kunena-en ... -panel#395

Anyone noticed a problem? If yes please tell me at which configuration (OS, host/DAW).

I tested it on Windows 7 64-bit with Live 9.1.3 64-bit (64-bit VST 2 plugin) and Studio One 2.6.2 64-bit (64-bit VST 3 plugin) without problems.

UPDATE:
Looks like a Mac and/or Digital Performer based problem:
I'm under LION 10.7.5. with Digital Performer 8.06 with PPG 3V 64 bits RC1 version



Checked the 64-bit VST 2 plugin with the demo of Digital Performer 8.0.6 64-bit on Windows 7 64bit.
Could not replicate the problem yet. Seems to be a Mac related problem or is just difficult to replicate.
I also posted at the forum in the link above.

Two screenshots of the PPG Wave 3.V 64-bit VST2 (single instance) with 5 patches at 5 different audio outputs in Live 9.1.3 64-bit and Digital Performer 8.0.6 64-bit (all 5 parts at MIDI channel 1 played with a single MIDI keyboard):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... Outs_1.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/532 ... Outs_1.png


Ingo
Waldorf Beta Forum Manager
"Atmospheric Transients" for PPG Wave 3.V
"Analog vs Digital" for Blofeld
Win 7 64-bit / Live 9 / Cubase 7.5 / Studio One / Reaper / Pro Tools // Blofeld / Pulse 2 / many plugins
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