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Vocaloid sounds like crap..

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KVRAF
 
3992 posts since 3 Jul, 2012
 

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:10 pm Vocaloid sounds like crap..

I don't understand why anybody would want to choose using this over a real singer.

Audio Demos here http://www.mikubook.com/

Product info here
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html ... 60::517559

I think If I needed something like this I would just get a half-decent singer and autotune or melodyne him.

Anyone actually use this stuff?
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KVRian
 
1060 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Postby fisherKing; Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:17 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

popular in japan....it's for fun, no one is really expecting to use it to replace a real singer... but for what it IS, it's pretty cool...
KVRist
 
99 posts since 21 Sep, 2008

Postby blackflag; Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:27 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

fisherKing wrote:popular in japan....it's for fun, no one is really expecting to use it to replace a real singer... but for what it IS, it's pretty cool...


Exactly.. we're talking about a culture that masturbates to cartoons, I don't think realism is very important to them. lol
KVRAF
 
3992 posts since 3 Jul, 2012
 

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:31 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

fisherKing wrote:popular in japan....it's for fun, no one is really expecting to use it to replace a real singer... but for what it IS, it's pretty cool...



$150 is a lot of money for something that sucks at what it does :shrug:

Oh well I guess there is always a niche out there somewhere. I guess if i ever want to make a electronic EDM hit for japanese people i'll keep this in mind.
KVRAF
 
1768 posts since 12 Sep, 2004

Postby kbaccki; Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:47 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

V0RT3X wrote:$150 is a lot of money for something that sucks at what it does :shrug:


Well… oh, nevermind...
You need to limit that rez, bro.
KVRian
 
981 posts since 28 Jun, 2005, from La La Land

Postby Orbit-50; Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:48 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

Beauty is within the ear of the beholder.


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KVRAF
 
1886 posts since 5 Nov, 2009
 

Postby arkmabat; Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:42 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

It's crazy famous in Japan. They even have live concerts featuring Vocaloid. It doesn't sound terribly bad when mixed... though maybe what I heard was a mixture of Vocaliod and a real singer together. That would make it an easy sell to unsuspecting customers...

There's a freeware floating around called Utau ("Sing" in Japanese) that is supposed to work okay.
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KVRist
 
125 posts since 20 Dec, 2008

Postby dformd; Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:20 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

V0RT3X wrote:$150 is a lot of money for something that sucks at what it does :shrug:

Why do you think it sucks at what it does?
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KVRAF
 
3952 posts since 6 Sep, 2006, from Elk Grove, CA

Postby cryophonik; Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:35 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

dformd wrote:
V0RT3X wrote:$150 is a lot of money for something that sucks at what it does :shrug:

Why do you think it sucks at what it does?


Probably because it does.
KVRAF
 
3992 posts since 3 Jul, 2012
 

Postby V0RT3X; Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:37 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

Give me the speak n spell anyday :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx-SBQNT-P0
KVRist
 
448 posts since 8 May, 2003, from Athens, Greece

Postby cimoc; Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:01 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

Well, it's as if I want say a blues guitar and I record some midi on my keyboard, then play it through a sampletank or kontant patch, and then complain that sampletank or kontant sucks. Of cource they suck at imitating lead guitars.

On the other hand, if I wanted a synth that plays a guitar sound....

My point being, it doesn't suck at what it does, but at what you think is should do (ie replace Janis Joplin or Elvis or even Lady Gaga- wait, I think it does the latter rather well!!! :D )
If you can't beat your computer at chess, try kick-boxing.
KVRist
 
272 posts since 10 Nov, 2005, from Scotland

Postby LoopyFruit; Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:50 am Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

IMO the Zero-G stuff is some of the best for English.

https://www.zero-g.co.uk/store/vocaloid-c42.php

I got Prima in the sale and it works well as a realtime VSTi in Cubase 7.5 (Win7 64bit).

Avanna also sounds OK but can't be used as a VSTi without buying the full Vocaloid 3 editor.
KVRian
 
578 posts since 25 Jun, 2013

Postby HaganeSteel; Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:01 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

Well, you don't use Vocaloid in place of a real singer. You use Vocaloids specifically for their robotic sound.

The Japanese band Perfume are real girls autotuned to sound like Vocaloids.

In order to answer "Why Vocaloid?" you have to understand Japan. It covers a broad spectrum of topics: sex, transgenderism, roleplay, electronic music, technology, and many more things.

Vocaloids become an extension of the composer.

A lot of people are transgendered, but not everyone can pull it off. Using a Vocaloid gives you a feminine voice.

My written voice is feminine, and I'm writing a novel under a female pen name. It's the same thing.
KVRian
 
626 posts since 30 Dec, 2004, from betwixt
  

Postby Codestation; Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:12 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

blackflag wrote:Exactly.. we're talking about a culture that masturbates to cartoons, I don't think realism is very important to them. lol


I quietly close my laptop and look around suspiciously, wondering how you could have seen me doing just that.

Seriously though it's 2014. Why can't I have a fully-custom female voice to insert into my recordings? I wish I could sing like a girl. And a guy. :x
KVRian
 
981 posts since 28 Jun, 2005, from La La Land

Postby Orbit-50; Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:41 pm Re: Vocaloid sounds like crap..

Codestation wrote:
blackflag wrote:Exactly.. we're talking about a culture that masturbates to cartoons, I don't think realism is very important to them. lol

I quietly close my laptop and look around suspiciously, wondering how you could have seen me doing just that.

We've all been down that road. :lol:


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