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Hi Guillermo,

I would like to raise some points in regard to what you posted
Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello all,

We definitely didn't created the term Grey Area import ;) the term is widely use when importing goods that are unavailable or more expensive in a certain country and unissued securities that are not yet traded in official markets.

There are many hidden pitfalls with this imports:

Products sourced from foreign markets will not usually include the valuable addition of any (local country) distributor's extended (place your country here) warranty, offering maybe an extra two years free of charge to provide an unrivalled three years' peace of mind.
What about when an individual buys something from an international retailers to be shipped to his home country? For example, when I order an item from an online retailer that offers international shipping, then I pay customs duty on the item. Why should the product still be tagged as a "grey area" import, if customs duty is paid?

Let me point out, that in many cases, it is necessary to order from a foreign country, and price difference may not be the only reason. Firstly, the product may not be available at all locally, or may have a very long delivery time. There have been cases where items I purchased had waiting times of upto 3 months in my country, but were delivered within 4-5 days from another country.

In some cases, the after sales service offered by more competitive markets is far better than locally. For example, my monitors have only a 1 year warranty in my country, and the official company warranty of 5 years does not apply. You may have to pay extra shipping costs for shipping the item back and forth, but in some cases this cost is offset by the superior service.
Retailers operating outside your country may not include VAT in the price of goods, so at first glance their offers may appear very attractive. However the purchaser then has to transport the item back to your country, with two obvious disadvantages:

a) If the goods go missing during transportation then the responsibility of tracing or replacing them - if the purchaser has been prudent enough to take out expensive insurance cover - falls to the customer. The vendor has received his money and will show no further interest.

b) As a EU (As an example) resident the purchaser is legally required, upon receipt of the goods, to pay import duty and VAT at 19% (in Germany). For peace of mind it is advisable to check the small print of the vendor's documentation. According to customs and Excise, unscrupulous overseas suppliers may falsely describe or value items to evade import duty. If the Customs declaration form on the parcel is found to be misleading then the recipient may be liable to financial penalty or prosecution. Purchasers may even have to forfeit the goods.
See above comment about individual buyers paying import duty. In my case, import duty is a hefty 30%. Again, does an item on which import duty has been paid also classify as a "grey area" import? If the tariff paid is so hefty, then why should it be classified as such?
If your local distributor does not want to give support or assistance then you can always request support to the Steinberg Headquarters.
Does this mean that I will be able to buy an upgrade to 7.5 or 8 upon release. My license was a cubase 6.5 upgrade from LE, with which I also received a free C7 grace period upgrade. It was bought from a US retailer and shipped to my home country (India).

Thanks

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Hello maschinelf,
What about when an individual buys something from an international retailers to be shipped to his home country? For example, when I order an item from an online retailer that offers international shipping, then I pay customs duty on the item. Why should the product still be tagged as a "grey area" import, if customs duty is paid?
See above comment about individual buyers paying import duty. In my case, import duty is a hefty 30%. Again, does an item on which import duty has been paid also classify as a "grey area" import? If the tariff paid is so hefty, then why should it be classified as such?
Unfortunately I am not an International trade expert, I just pointed out what the term Grey Import stands for and why the products under discussion where considered grey imports.
On the other hand I think we are getting a little bit of topic. ;)
I guess, If you are paying the import duty then it is not a grey import anymore, you would have to ask this to your local customs office, they probably know the answer.
Does this mean that I will be able to buy an upgrade to 7.5 or 8 upon release. My license was a cubase 6.5 upgrade from LE, with which I also received a free C7 grace period upgrade. It was bought from a US retailer and shipped to my home country (India).
Since Cubase 7 we offer online upgrades for Cubase, most probably it will be the same for Cubase 8 although I cannot confirm that. If that is the case you would be able to purchase it through the online shop like any other user worldwide.

In case you want to purchase any other Steinberg products we do have a distributor in India:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/distributor.html

Pace Communications (India) Pvt Ltd,
17-2B Ghanshyam Ind Estate
Veera Desai Road
Andheri West
Mumbai - 400053.
www.pace-mediateck.com

Best regards,
GN
Guillermo Navarrete, Product Specialist
Steinberg
Hamburg, Germany
Check out Steinberg on Steinberg

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Guillermo,

I really appreciate you taking the time out to reply.
Guillermo Navarrete wrote:Hello maschinelf,
What about when an individual buys something from an international retailers to be shipped to his home country? For example, when I order an item from an online retailer that offers international shipping, then I pay customs duty on the item. Why should the product still be tagged as a "grey area" import, if customs duty is paid?
See above comment about individual buyers paying import duty. In my case, import duty is a hefty 30%. Again, does an item on which import duty has been paid also classify as a "grey area" import? If the tariff paid is so hefty, then why should it be classified as such?
Unfortunately I am not an International trade expert, I just pointed out what the term Grey Import stands for and why the products under discussion where considered grey imports.
On the other hand I think we are getting a little bit of topic. ;)
I guess, If you are paying the import duty then it is not a grey import anymore, you would have to ask this to your local customs office, they probably know the answer.
My question was somewhat rhetorical in nature. It was asked in the form of a question, to raise some points by implication. The fact is that some, if not all, products for which duty IS paid are considered grey area imports. I was told this by the Access Music product manager when I sold my virus i.e. that it would be classified as a "grey" import even though I had paid duty. It doesnt make a difference with after sales service in the country of origin though.

My point is, why should manufacturers/developers discourage competition, and favor local dealers/distributors who in some countries are either extremely incompetent, or significantly more expensive. Considering that this is the way it is, they should leave it upto the buyer to decide instead of placing artificial trade barriers that protect the local distributor, in effect giving him a monopoly.
Guillermo Navarrete wrote:
Does this mean that I will be able to buy an upgrade to 7.5 or 8 upon release. My license was a cubase 6.5 upgrade from LE, with which I also received a free C7 grace period upgrade. It was bought from a US retailer and shipped to my home country (India).
Since Cubase 7 we offer online upgrades for Cubase, most probably it will be the same for Cubase 8 although I cannot confirm that. If that is the case you would be able to purchase it through the online shop like any other user worldwide.

In case you want to purchase any other Steinberg products we do have a distributor in India:

http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/distributor.html

Pace Communications (India) Pvt Ltd,
17-2B Ghanshyam Ind Estate
Veera Desai Road
Andheri West
Mumbai - 400053.
www.pace-mediateck.com

Best regards,
GN
I certainly hope that it remains online. Also, like some others pointed out, most hosts are now available as downloads, so to remove this option would imho be a step backward. Also, I am aware of the local distributor (PACE communications). They quoted a price of roughly 700 usd for cubase 7, and a waiting time of about 3 weeks. They also said the cubase LE upgrade was not available, and my only choice was to buy a full license.

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I have one Question for Steinberg & (Guillermo Navarrete)

why is steinberg charging so much on CUBASE compare to LOGIC X
buying from other country is cheap but again all other charges are levied and risk of damage is also there

buying from india is anyways no point as they are pretty expensive
pace communication charges 800 $$ plus Serivce tax extra :o
which is way beyond the price anywhere in around the world

plus latest apple logic version i get it for 200$$ full version and has all the features what cubase has
than why should i be loyal to steinberg if they dont wana slash down their prices

i think gardually u will loose lot of customers as pricing is way to high.
last year my friend moved to logic.
well atleast i am optiong out of cubase now on :wink:

all the best stein berg for keeping it expensive :hihi:
MR. J

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Hello,
spyki2000 wrote:I have one Question for Steinberg & (Guillermo Navarrete)

buying from india is anyways no point as they are pretty expensive
pace communication charges 800 $$ plus Serivce tax extra :o
which is way beyond the price anywhere in around the world

Each distributor is free to choose their own pricing policy, perhaps they have to pay a bigger import tax, and shipping costs. You will have to ask this to Pace communications.
plus latest apple logic version i get it for 200$$ full version and has all the features what cubase has
Cubase and logic do not have the same features. But we are off topic with this point. And if you want to use logic you need a Mac which a new mac out of the shelf could be up to 600€ for a Mac Mini or 900€for a MacBookAir + Logic it adds up for 1000€ for a DAW.
than why should i be loyal to steinberg if they dont wana slash down their prices
That is something you will have to figure out yourself.

Best regards,
GN
Guillermo Navarrete, Product Specialist
Steinberg
Hamburg, Germany
Check out Steinberg on Steinberg

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figured out logic for sure cheap pricing and easy to find it anywhere in india

thanks for the reply buddy
MR. J

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